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Overview
The Message on Trial - Part 1 - The Initial Defence
The Message on Trial - Part 2 - The Counterattack
The Message on Trial - Part 3 - The Counteroffensive
The Message on Trial - Q&A - Questions & Answers
The Message on Trial - Part 4 - Finding the Balance

PART 4: FINDING THE BALANCE

Video: "Discouraged by the Message and the Prophet P4 — Finding the Balance With the Prophet" Date: February 17, 2026 Duration: Approximately 1 hour 53 minutes URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfT2jmcfCdI VIDEO SUMMARY Overview Part 4 represents Francis's most ambitious and theologically dense installment. Titled "Finding the Balance With the Prophet," the video attempts to articulate a comprehensive defense of why Message believers hold their beliefs — framed as a positive case for the Message rather than a reactive defense against critics. Francis opens by reading Malachi 4:1–6 and Deuteronomy 34:10, then presents a framework centered on "finding the middle of the road" with Branham — neither making too much of him nor too little. He outlines five specific roles he believes Branham fulfilled: (1) Seventh Church Age Messenger, (2) One with the Spirit of Elijah, (3) The Appearing of the Son of Man (messianic sign of discernment), (4) The Eliezer Commission (calling out a bride), and (5) The vessel chosen to open the Seventh Seal. He acknowledges this "looks like a lot to place on one man." He then presents six introspective questions for Message believers, lists doctrines the Message has "put into perspective," and draws a parallel to Luke 4:32 where people were "astonished" at Christ's doctrine. A significant portion of the video addresses the Malachi 4 debate, where Francis argues that John the Baptist only fulfilled half of the prophecy — turning the hearts of the fathers to the children — leaving the second half (children to fathers) for an end-time Elijah ministry. He challenges critics to explain how John fulfilled the entire prophecy. Francis then introduces Joshua and Elisha typologies, arguing that Branham (like Moses) brought the church to a "crossing over" point, after which the Holy Spirit (typed by Joshua) leads into the Promised Land. He quotes Branham's own statements that believers should not "live in the glare of another age" and that Christ — not Branham — is the messenger of the bride age. Finally, Francis returns to Deuteronomy 18:20–22, offering a novel interpretation: that "the prophet has spoken it presumptuously" means prophets can make presumptuous predictions without being false prophets, and that "thou shalt not be afraid of him" simply means "don't worry about that prediction" — not that the prophet should be rejected. The video concludes with a call for Message believers to "be better" and an emotional appeal to critics to stop "trolling" and instead help the suffering world. PRELIMINARY OBSERVATION: THE PIVOT FROM DEFENSE TO DECLARATION Parts 1 through 3 and the Q&A session were fundamentally reactive — Francis was responding to critics, defending against specific accusations, and addressing the crisis of young people leaving the Message. Part 4 marks a deliberate shift. Francis is no longer defending; he is declaring. The video's title — "Finding the Balance" — signals an attempt to reframe the narrative from "why the critics are wrong" to "here is what we believe and why." This is strategically significant for two reasons: First, it reveals that the previous four installments failed to resolve the crisis. If Parts 1–3 and the Q&A had successfully answered the critics' objections, there would be no need for a fourth defense. Francis himself acknowledges this: "Of course I didn't expect to be getting into this once again... but it seems like everything that we do produces questions from people" ([2:04–2:22]). The fact that Francis must keep producing videos is itself evidence that his arguments are not persuading even his own congregation. Second, the "balance" framing is an implicit concession that imbalance exists. By structuring the entire video around "finding the middle of the road," Francis concedes that significant portions of the Message movement have gone to one extreme or the other — either deifying Branham or abandoning him. This is precisely what critics have argued for years, and Francis now agrees with it. The question is whether his proposed "middle" is actually in the middle, or whether it merely relocates the extreme to a more sophisticated position. CRITICAL ANALYSIS AND REBUTTALS Argument 46: The Five Roles Framework — Building an Unfalsifiable Prophet Francis presents five roles Branham allegedly fulfilled: (1) Seventh Church Age Messenger, (2) One with the Spirit of Elijah, (3) The Messianic Sign / Appearing of the Son of Man, (4) The Eliezer Commission, and (5) The vessel to open the Seventh Seal. He concedes: "This really looks like a lot to place on one man. You don't blame people for saying you guys just make too much of him" ([21:58–22:25]). The core problem is circularity. Each of these five roles is derived primarily from Branham's own claims about himself, interpreted through Branham's own theological framework, and validated by Branham's own sermons. The "evidence" for Branham being the Seventh Church Age Messenger is Branham's teaching on the Seven Church Ages. The evidence for Branham having the Spirit of Elijah is Branham's claim that the voice on the river said so. The evidence for the Messianic Sign is Branham's discernment meetings, which are documented only through Branham's own ministry recordings. This is not independent corroboration — it is a closed system of self-authentication. Francis attempts to break out of this circularity by saying: "We don't accept what brother Branham says just because brother Branham said it. We literally read church history, look at it, look at where we are today, judge what has happened, and recognize that what he's telling us is the truth" ([6:50–7:08]). But this claim collapses under examination. The church history framework he references — the Seven Church Ages with specific messengers — is itself Branham's teaching, borrowed largely from Clarence Larkin and other dispensationalist writers. You cannot validate a prophet's claims by using the prophet's own interpretive framework as your standard of evidence. Moreover, stacking five extraordinary roles onto one person does not make the case stronger — it makes it exponentially less probable and more extraordinary, requiring proportionally greater evidence. Francis acknowledges the problem but treats it as a feature rather than a bug: "It looks like we're placing way too much upon this man... Absolutely, we're going to draw the anger and the eye of many people" ([22:25–22:45]). The biblical principle, however, is clear: extraordinary claims require extraordinary validation. "By their fruits you shall know them" (Matthew 7:16) — not by the number of titles they claim. Argument 47: The Six Questions — An Appeal to Experience Over Evidence Francis presents six questions Message believers should ask themselves: (1) How has this message affected you? (2) What attracted you to the Message? (3) Why you of all people? (4) Have you ever heard anything like this before? (5) Have your eyes been opened to fraudulent Christianity? (6) Are you on the persecuted side? ([21:58–29:01]). Every one of these questions appeals to personal experience and emotion, not to objective evidence. This is significant because it represents a fundamental epistemological shift from the biblical standard. The Bible never asks believers to evaluate a prophet by asking "How did his message make you feel?" or "Were you personally affected by it?" The biblical standard is ruthlessly objective: "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken" (Deuteronomy 18:22). The test is not experiential — it is factual. Francis's questions could be asked — and would be answered affirmatively — by devout members of virtually any high-demand religious group. Jehovah's Witnesses would affirm that their message "opened their eyes to fraudulent Christianity." Mormons would testify they have "never heard anything like this before." Members of the Unification Church would affirm they are "on the persecuted side." The questions are designed to produce confirmation, not evaluation. Question 6 deserves special scrutiny. Francis argues that Message believers are uniquely persecuted, and implies this persecution validates their faith: "If you're in the message, oh yes, you are going to be vilified, researched, chased after, investigated, your life put online" ([28:01–28:20]). This is a textbook persecution complex — and it confuses criticism with persecution. Having your theological claims examined is not persecution; it is the normal functioning of biblical discernment. By this logic, every false teacher whose claims are scrutinized is a martyr. Argument 48: "What the Message Has Put Into Perspective" — The Doctrinal Appeal Francis lists doctrines the Message has supposedly clarified: "Before creation, creation, serpent seed, the original sin, the law of Moses... the true baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, the Godhead... predestination... the book of Revelations..." ([29:01–31:51]). This is a common argument in Message circles and deserves a careful response. First, most of these doctrines were not unique to Branham. Oneness theology (Jesus Name baptism, the rejection of Trinitarianism) predates Branham by decades — it was established in the Oneness Pentecostal movement beginning around 1913. The Serpent Seed doctrine existed in various forms before Branham. Dispensational eschatology involving the Book of Revelation was taught by Darby, Scofield, Larkin, and many others. What Branham offered was not new revelation on these topics but rather a synthesis of existing theological streams, combined with his own additions. Second, the appeal to doctrinal satisfaction does not validate the prophet. Many theological systems offer internally consistent, intellectually satisfying frameworks. Calvinism provides a comprehensive theology of predestination. Catholic theology provides a detailed sacramental system. Mormonism provides an elaborate cosmology. The question is not whether a system satisfies its adherents — most systems do, which is why people remain in them — but whether its foundational claims are true. And the foundational claim here — that Branham was a divinely authorized prophet — must be tested by the biblical standard, not by the subjective satisfaction of his followers. Third, Francis's claim that "they don't teach in the denominations" many of these topics is demonstrably false. Predestination is a central doctrine of Reformed theology, taught exhaustively for five centuries. The Book of Revelation has been the subject of intensive scholarly study across all major traditions. Holiness standards are preached in many conservative denominations. What Francis actually means is that his particular combination and interpretation of these doctrines is not taught elsewhere — which is true of every distinct theological system, including those he would reject. Argument 49: "Astonished at His Doctrine" — The Luke 4:32 Parallel Francis draws a parallel between the reaction to Christ's teaching in Luke 4:32 ("they were astonished at his doctrine, for his word was with power") and the reaction to Branham's teachings ([31:51–36:05]). He elaborates on the Greek meaning of "astonished" — to be struck, to be shocked — and implies that the Message produces a similar reaction. This parallel is profoundly problematic. The people in Luke 4 were astonished at the teaching of Christ himself — the incarnate Word of God, whose teaching authority derived from his divine nature. To draw a direct parallel between the response to Christ's teaching and the response to Branham's teaching is to equate the two ministries in a way that Francis elsewhere claims he is not doing. Moreover, the "astonishment" test proves nothing about truth. People are "astonished" by many things — including false teachings. The Pharisees were astonished by Jesus, and they rejected him. The crowds were astonished and then demanded his crucifixion. Astonishment is a measure of novelty and power, not of truth. By this standard, any teacher who provokes a strong reaction could claim divine authority. Argument 50: The Malachi 4 "Half Fulfillment" Theory This is the theological centerpiece of Part 4, consuming approximately twenty-five minutes of the video ([40:27–59:21]). Francis argues that John the Baptist fulfilled only the first half of Malachi 4:5–6 — turning "the heart of the fathers to the children" — while leaving the second half — turning "the heart of the children to their fathers" — for an end-time Elijah ministry. Francis challenges critics: "If you choose to believe that John the Baptist indeed fulfilled Malachi 4:5 and 6, then you have to explain to us how the hearts of the fathers to the children were turned and how the heart of the children to the fathers were turned" ([49:30–49:50]). This argument has a fatal flaw: it requires overriding Jesus Christ's own words. In Matthew 17:11–12, when asked about Elijah, Jesus states: "Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed." The disciples then "understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist" (v. 13). Jesus does not say Elias "partially came" or "half-fulfilled" the prophecy. He says "Elias is come already" — past tense, completed action. Francis attempts to circumvent this by noting that John the Baptist, when asked directly, identified himself as the voice of Isaiah 40 (Malachi 3) rather than Malachi 4, and argues from this that John did not claim the full Malachi 4 fulfillment. But this approach pits John the Baptist's self-identification against Jesus Christ's identification of him. If there is a conflict between what John said about himself and what Jesus said about John, the words of Christ must take precedence for anyone who claims to follow biblical authority. The "fathers and children" interpretation is also exegetically problematic. Francis's explanation — that "fathers" represent "the foundations of the faith" and "children" represent "the manifestation of the faith," and that John turned the foundations toward the manifestation while a future Elijah would turn the manifestation back toward the foundations — is an allegorical framework that Branham imposed on the text. The most natural reading of Malachi 4:6, which is also the reading of the Jewish tradition Francis himself cites, is that Elijah would bring about reconciliation and repentance. Luke 1:17 explicitly tells us what the angel Gabriel understood it to mean when speaking of John: "And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." Gabriel does not say "half of Malachi 4." He describes John's ministry as a complete preparatory work — making ready a people for the Lord. And the very fact that Malachi's prophecy immediately precedes 400 years of prophetic silence followed by John's ministry is itself the contextual evidence that the early church fathers, the Reformers, and the overwhelming consensus of Christian scholarship have understood: Malachi 4 found its fulfillment in John the Baptist. The "half fulfillment" theory also creates an insurmountable theological problem. Malachi 4:5 says God will send Elijah "before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord." If only the first half was fulfilled by John, then the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" has been pending for 2,000 years, waiting for the second half. But Francis himself argues that this day is still future — which means that even on his own timeline, William Branham did not fulfill Malachi 4 either, because the "great and dreadful day" has not yet come. The prophecy remains unfulfilled by Francis's own logic. Argument 51: The "Tell Us What the Truth Is" Challenge Repeatedly throughout the video, Francis challenges critics: "Now tell us what the truth is" ([59:21]). "Which denomination is the right one? Please tell us" ([50:01]). "It's not enough to tell us we're wrong... You need to tell us how" ([49:50]). This is a textbook burden-shifting fallacy. The ability to identify a counterfeit does not require you to produce the genuine article. A bank teller can identify a forged banknote without being able to print a real one. A doctor can diagnose a disease without personally being healthy. Critics of Branham's failed prophecies are not obligated to provide an alternative prophetic ministry in order for their observations to be valid. The biblical standard is clear and self-contained. Deuteronomy 18:22 does not say: "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken — unless his critics cannot provide a better prophet." The test stands on its own. A failed prophecy is a failed prophecy regardless of whether the person identifying it has a denominational alternative to offer. Furthermore, the demand "tell us which denomination is right" falsely presupposes that the only alternative to following Branham is following a denomination. Many who have left the Message have found vibrant, Bible-centered faith outside of any denominational structure. Others have joined healthy local churches. The question is a rhetorical trap designed to make leaving the Message seem directionless, when in fact the direction is clear: follow Christ and his Word, tested by biblical standards. Argument 52: "Not Everything Was Thus Saith the Lord" — The Epistemological Crisis In one of the most revealing moments of the video, Francis makes this extraordinary admission: "Not everything that brother Branham said was thus sayeth the lord. Don't let them tell you that. When it was, he said so. There were many times where he said this is me speaking. This is how I see it" ([36:05–37:00]). Francis intends this as a defense — a way to explain away Branham's errors by classifying them as "Branham the man" speaking rather than "Branham the prophet." But this admission creates an epistemological crisis that is far more devastating to the Message than Francis realizes. If Branham sometimes spoke as a prophet and sometimes spoke as a man, and both types of speech are recorded on the same tapes without any consistent, reliable method of distinguishing between them, then *no statement on the tapes can be treated as authoritative* without an external standard to verify it. Francis claims "when it was [Thus Saith the Lord], he said so." But Branham frequently used "Thus Saith the Lord" before statements that did not come to pass — including predictions about the 1977 destruction of America, the Municipal Bridge, and others documented extensively in this rebuttal. If Branham's own "Thus Saith the Lord" marker is unreliable, then there is no reliable indicator of when Branham was speaking for God. This leaves Message believers in an impossible position: they must somehow discern which portions of 1,100+ sermons represent divine revelation and which represent human opinion — using no external standard, no objective criteria, and no mechanism for verification other than their own subjective spiritual sense. This is precisely the kind of interpretive chaos that the Deuteronomy 18 test was designed to prevent. The test exists because God knew that prophets would be tempted to add their own words alongside God's — and He provided an objective, external standard for evaluation. Francis has effectively argued that this standard should not apply to Branham, leaving his followers with no standard at all. Argument 53: The Elijah/Elisha Typology — Selective Symbolism Francis argues that Elijah's commission had three parts (anointing Elisha, Jehu, and Hazael), and that Elijah only completed one — anointing Elisha — while the other two were completed by Elisha. He then maps this typology onto Branham: Branham is Elijah who anointed Elisha (the bride), and the bride must now complete the commission ([1:11:07–1:16:54]). This typology is self-servingly selective. If Branham is typed by Elijah, then one must also account for the fact that Elijah did not fail any prophecies. Every word Elijah spoke came to pass: the drought (1 Kings 17:1), the widow's provision (17:14), the resurrection of the widow's son (17:22), the fire on Mount Carmel (18:38), the rain (18:45), Ahab's death (21:19), and Jezebel's death (2 Kings 9:36, fulfilling 1 Kings 21:23). The biblical Elijah has a perfect prophetic record. If Branham is the antitype, his record must be measured against the type — and it fails. Furthermore, the typological method Francis employs can be used to prove virtually anything. Typology is a legitimate hermeneutical tool when used with restraint and grounded in explicit New Testament connections (as with Christ and Moses, or the Passover lamb). But when it is extended freely — mapping Branham onto Elijah, the bride onto Elisha, denominations onto Jezebel, and governments onto Ahab — it becomes an unfalsifiable interpretive game. Any figure can be made to "fit" a type if you are free to select which elements of the type apply and which do not. Argument 54: "Living in the Glare of Another Age" — An Argument That Cuts Both Ways Francis uses Branham's own sermon illustrations to argue that Message believers must not "live in the glare of another age" ([1:16:54–1:22:58]). He quotes Branham's teaching that the Lutherans were stuck in Luther's glare, the Methodists in Wesley's glare, and the Pentecostals in the Pentecostal glare — each unable to move forward because they were fixated on a past move of God. Francis then makes the remarkable assertion: "If you think you are following William Branham, you are being deceived because he is dead and already told us who is leading us" ([1:19:30]). He quotes Branham saying that Christ — the Holy Spirit — is the messenger of the bride age, not Branham himself. This argument is devastating — but not in the direction Francis intends. If the principle is that every age must move forward and not remain fixated on the previous messenger, then the Message movement is doing exactly what Branham warned against. They are living in the glare of Branham's age. They are playing his tapes, quoting his sermons, defending his reputation, and structuring their entire faith around his words — which is precisely what Branham said the Lutherans, Methodists, and Pentecostals were guilty of doing with their respective messengers. Francis attempts to escape this by saying "we follow Christ, not Branham" while simultaneously saying "we stay with the word of the prophet" and "this book of the law [the Message] shall not depart out of thy mouth." He cannot have it both ways. Either Branham's words are authoritative and must be followed — in which case the movement is indeed following a man — or Christ alone is the authority and Branham's words are merely helpful commentary that can be evaluated, corrected, and set aside when they fail the biblical test. Francis wants the authority of the former with the flexibility of the latter, and this is logically incoherent. The very existence of this video series — over ten hours of defending Branham across five installments — is itself proof that the Message movement is "living in the glare of another age." If Christ were truly their messenger and Branham had truly decreased, there would be no need for this defense. The fact that questioning Branham provokes this level of response demonstrates that Branham, not Christ, remains the functional authority of the movement. Argument 55: The Joshua Typology — "Stay With the Word of Moses" Francis maps Joshua onto the Holy Spirit and argues that just as God told Joshua to "meditate" in the law of Moses and not "turn from it to the right or to the left" (Joshua 1:7–8), so the bride must continue to meditate on Branham's words while being led by Christ ([1:22:58–1:34:36]). The typological mapping undermines Francis's own argument. In the Joshua narrative, the command to keep the law of Moses was a command to keep Scripture — the divinely inspired, inerrant Word of God that had been given through Moses. To map Branham's sermons onto "the law of Moses" is to grant Branham's 1,100+ recorded sermons the same authority as Scripture. This is precisely the elevation of Branham that Francis claims to be arguing against. If Francis intends a more modest claim — that Branham's sermons contain helpful teaching that should not be entirely abandoned — then the Joshua typology is inappropriate and overclaims. You do not need a type from the conquest of Canaan to justify reading a minister's sermons. The typology exists in Francis's presentation to do exactly what he says he is not doing: to elevate Branham's words to scriptural authority. Furthermore, there is a crucial element of the Joshua narrative that Francis omits: Joshua received direct revelation from God (Joshua 1:1–9, 3:7, 5:13–15, 6:2–5, etc.). He was not merely recycling Moses's words — he was receiving fresh instructions for new situations. If the typology holds, then the bride should expect new direction from the Holy Spirit, not merely a perpetual replaying of old tapes. The Joshua type actually argues for moving beyond Branham, not for remaining tethered to him. Argument 56: Deuteronomy 18 Reinterpreted — "Presumptuously" Does Not Mean "Falsely" Francis returns to Deuteronomy 18:20–22 for a final attempt at reinterpretation ([1:34:36–1:41:41]). His argument: "It's not telling you when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if it does not follow, he's a false prophet. It doesn't say that. It says the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Thou shalt not be afraid of him... It's actually telling you he's still a prophet... You can't fight with that scripture" ([1:37:40–1:38:20]). This is an extraordinary reinterpretation that inverts the plain meaning of the passage. Let us examine what the text actually says in its full context: Verse 20: "The prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak... even that prophet shall die." Verse 22: "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." Francis reads "presumptuously" as though it means "he overstepped slightly but is still legitimate." But the word "presumptuously" (Hebrew: zadon) means arrogance, insolence, presumption — it refers to the act of claiming God's authority for words God did not give. And verse 20 is explicit about the consequence: "that prophet shall die." The passage does not describe a minor error by an otherwise legitimate prophet. It describes the defining characteristic of a false prophet: claiming to speak for God when God has not spoken. "Thou shalt not be afraid of him" does not mean "don't worry about his prediction." It means "do not fear this prophet" — do not treat him as though he has divine authority over you, because his failed prediction has proven he does not. This is the entire purpose of the passage: to liberate Israel from the fear of false prophets by providing an objective test. Francis's reading renders the passage meaningless. If "presumptuously" just means prophets sometimes overspeak, and "thou shalt not be afraid" just means ignore that particular prediction, then there is no possible way to identify a false prophet using this test. Any failed prophecy can be dismissed as "presumptuous" speech that does not affect the prophet's standing. This is not biblical interpretation — it is the nullification of a biblical safeguard. It is worth noting: Francis also makes the peculiar argument that "this is literally telling you that prophets do speak presumptuously because of the anointing of God in their lives. They start to see things... and they're going to predict things that God didn't even say to them" ([1:38:20–1:38:50]). This claim — that the anointing of God causes prophets to make false predictions — has no biblical support whatsoever. The biblical position is precisely the opposite: genuine prophets speak only what God commands (Numbers 22:38, Deuteronomy 18:18, Jeremiah 1:7, 23:28). The notion that divine anointing leads to false predictions is theologically incoherent. Argument 57: The Persecution Complex and the "Be Better" Conclusion Throughout the video, Francis frames criticism of the Message as persecution: "If you're in the message, oh yes, you are going to be vilified, researched, chased after, investigated, your life put online" ([28:01–28:20]). He asks critics: "Why do you have to target me and then go and investigate me and then write up a whole lot of stuff?" ([1:49:50]). He closes with a call for Message believers to "be better" and for critics to "stop fighting us" and instead "go help the people of the world" ([1:52:00]). Several observations: First, criticism is not persecution. The Bible commands believers to "test the spirits" (1 John 4:1), "prove all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and evaluate prophets by their fruits and accuracy (Matthew 7:15–20, Deuteronomy 18:22). When critics document Branham's failed predictions using his own recorded words, they are obeying Scripture, not persecuting anyone. Francis's characterization of this as "trolling" and "shaming" reveals that in his framework, any critical examination of the prophet is inherently illegitimate — which is precisely the closed epistemology that traps people in deceptive systems. Second, the "go help the world instead" deflection is a red herring. The existence of suffering in the world does not obligate critics to remain silent about theological deception. By this logic, no one should ever address false teaching because there are always more pressing humanitarian concerns. The apostle Paul evidently did not share this view, given the substantial portions of his epistles devoted to correcting false teachers (Galatians 1:6–9, 2 Corinthians 11:4–15, Colossians 2:8, Titus 1:10–11). Contending for sound doctrine is helping people — particularly those trapped in systems built on false prophetic claims. Third, the "be better" conclusion is itself an admission of failure. Francis acknowledges that the Message community has deep problems: internal division, extremism, people "living in the glare of another age," the movement's tendency to "use the prophet as a threatening stick." These are not peripheral issues — they are the fruit of the movement. And the biblical test for prophetic ministries is precisely fruit: "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:20). If the fruit of Branham's ministry, after sixty years, is a fractured, internally divided, often authoritarian movement that Francis himself says needs to "be better" — then the fruit has testified. FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS WITH PART 4 1. The Central Contradiction The overarching problem with Part 4 is a contradiction that pervades the entire video: Francis simultaneously argues that (a) Branham must decrease and Christ must increase, the bride should follow Christ not Branham, and believers should not "live in the glare of another age" — while (b) spending nearly two hours defending Branham's prophetic office, urging believers to "stay with the word of the prophet," and insisting that the Message is essential for the bride's preparation. If Christ is truly the messenger and Branham has truly decreased, then defending Branham with this level of intensity is itself "living in the glare." And if the Message is so essential that believers must "meditate in it day and night" and never "turn from it to the right or to the left," then Branham has not decreased at all — he remains the functional authority regardless of how many times Francis says otherwise. Francis cannot resolve this contradiction because it is inherent in the Message system: a movement built on a human prophet's authority cannot simultaneously claim that the prophet's authority has been superseded. The more you insist on following the prophet's words, the more you prove you have not moved past the prophet — no matter how many Joshua typologies you deploy. 2. The Deuteronomy 18 Nullification Francis's reinterpretation of Deuteronomy 18:22 is perhaps the most dangerous argument in the entire series. By arguing that "presumptuously" merely means the prophet overstepped and "thou shalt not be afraid of him" merely means ignore that prediction, Francis has effectively eliminated the only objective biblical test for false prophets. This matters enormously because the Deuteronomy 18 test exists as a protection. God gave it to Israel — and by extension to all believers — specifically because He knew false prophets would arise who would claim divine authority they did not possess. The test is meant to be simple, clear, and conclusive: if the prediction fails, the prophet spoke without God's authority. By reinterpreting this test into meaninglessness, Francis removes the one safeguard that could protect his congregation from deception — including his own. Consider the implications: If Francis's interpretation is correct, then no prophet in history could ever fail the Deuteronomy 18 test. Every failed prediction would simply be "presumptuous" speech that does not affect the prophet's standing. This would apply not only to Branham but to every false prophet who has ever lived — from the prophets of Baal to Joseph Smith to every apocalyptic date-setter in history. Francis has not defended Branham; he has obliterated the concept of a false prophet entirely. 3. The "Tell Us What You Believe" Deflection Francis's repeated demand that critics present their own complete theological system before they can critique Branham's is a sophisticated but transparent deflection. It would be like a defendant in court demanding that the prosecution build a house before they can prove his house was built on a faulty foundation. The obligation is simple: Branham claimed to speak for God. His predictions can be tested against reality. When they fail, the claim is falsified. This conclusion does not require the critic to have an alternative prophet, an alternative movement, or an alternative systematic theology. The evidence speaks for itself. 4. The Emotional Architecture Part 4 is carefully constructed as an emotional argument, not an evidential one. The six questions are emotional. The "what the Message has put into perspective" list appeals to doctrinal satisfaction. The Malachi 4 argument is framed as a challenge ("explain it to us"). The conclusion is a plea for empathy ("I'm tired, I'm exhausted, I'm really spent"). At no point does Francis present new evidence that Branham's failed predictions actually succeeded. At no point does he demonstrate that a single documented false prophecy was actually true. The entire video is an elaborate exercise in changing the subject — from "did his prophecies come to pass?" to "don't you feel the Message is true?" Feelings are real and important. But they are not the biblical test. The woman at the well felt amazed by Jesus — but her amazement was grounded in a demonstrably accurate prophetic word: "He told me all things that ever I did" (John 4:39). The test is not the feeling; the test is whether the word proves true. This is the test that Francis has spent five videos avoiding.

Video Transcript

So greeting saints in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Uh it's a pleasure to be with you this evening and once again to share God's word. Uh we certainly love the the word of the Lord with all our heart. It is uh the reason why we are believers in these times is because God has chosen us because of our love for his word. Amen. So we certainly grateful to God for the truth of this day and for the message of the hour and that's why we are here to talk about these things. So uh we'd like to begin by reading our scripture. Uh we'll begin reading from Malachi 4:es 1 through to 6. And it says, "For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yay, all that do wicked shall be stubble, and the day that cometh shall burn them up, sayeth the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the son of righteousness arise with healing in his wings. And you shall go forth and grow up as calves of the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, say the Lord of hosts. Remember you the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb, for all Israel with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Amen. and the Lord add a blessing to his word. Um so this this evening um we're doing the fourth part of discouraged by the message and the prophet. Of course I didn't expect to be getting into this once again. Um, but it seems like everything that we do, you know, produces questions uh from people and I'm particularly concerned with the uh with the young people and their questions and you know what affects their hearts and what they want to know uh from the message. So um that's why we're going to be doing the fourth part here and our title is going to be finding the middle of the road with brother Brandham. I also want to read one more verse um which is from Deuteronomy 34 and verse 10. Um simple scripture here Deuteronomy 34:10. And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses whom the Lord knew face to face. There arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses whom the Lord knew face to face. All right. So just to introduce the subject and um the message this evening finding the middle of the road with the prophet. Why? Because people will obviously make more of him than they should and then others will make less of him than they should. This happened with every single uh ministry that ever occurred on earth. Whenever God sent a prophet, somebody would u be loyal to that prophet. Some there would be some very few who would be absolutely loyal. they would die for him. Uh like in the time of Moses, you had Joshua, Aaron, her. Uh these men were like his right-hand um men and they would die for Moses. But there were others like Kora, Dayan, and Abram and other people of the tribe uh the same tribe that Moses was of Levi who who deferred with him on many things. So, um, we could go through all the prophets in the Bible and you're going to find the same thing. Those who make more of him than than they should and those who make less of him than they should. And, um, often times we get people going off on two different tangents. And the the the place to be where God is revealing his word is right in the middle of the road. So what I want to talk about today is you know because in the last few segments that we did on this uh it kind of because of what I was doing to try and bring a balance to things that I that have been said and to bring encouragement of course I I asked questions and um it left a lot of people with with the questions who probably have never taught these things. So I ask these questions of you know antibrandom people but not that we don't have the answers we I ask those questions because the message gives us those answers and so um we that's that's the reason why we said all those things because I really don't find the need to go to other churches or other understandings to find the questions my the answers for the questions of my heart, they're they're all in the message. They satisfy me. I have no need to go elsewhere. Um, I find the Lord Jesus through the message. I do not need to go anywhere else. So, and the reason is I feel like they've been putting out the wrong picture of who all of us are. They've been using um, you know, certain individuals to brand us all the same. Um so that's the reason why and so what what I want to do here today is kind of settle what we believe and um I realize that where we left off there were these questions. So what do we believe and why? Now, we believe based on 2,000 years of church history after Christ that there were that there definitely has been development and evolution of the Christian church. I mean anybody who uh you know is a believer today, anybody who is a Christian today who has gray cells in their heads know that it's been 2,000 somewhat years since Christ left the earth. and the Christian church came forth from the book of Acts and evolved. I mean we we know this because we know how they started. The the church started in the homes of believers and evolved from there to where they were becoming so large in numbers that they had to meet. They had to find venues to meet where they could all hear one minister. And then eventually Howard began to become established churches with pastors and leaders and congregants, members and so on. Um so what I'm saying is we have seen exactly how the church transformed into what it is today. Uh we are not duped stupid people who are brainwashed by a cult leader as they suggest we are. We read the word in church history. We are not ignorant that there has been significant evolution of Christianity on that basis. We believe what he taught on the church ages. So we believe Revelations 2:3 even though they disagree with it. they discounted as somebody else's doctrine or um discounted as somebody's doctrine who was a false teacher or something. We believe that revelations chapter 2 to chapter 3 shows church ages and not just messengers messages to seven churches in Asia Minor. We believe that the book of Revelations is a book of symbols and maps it out. So how do we know that? because 2,000 years have passed, which if you have 2,000 years of pu uh that have passed of the Christian church, you don't even need Revelations 2 and 3 to divide 2,000 years into ages of development. You literally can do that by reading history. uh and you just need some some academic brain to run through the history and show you where it evolved to, how it moved from here, who were the present leader uh the current leaders in each time and where the influence came from. You can do all that. So this is why when we look at revelations 2 and 3, we don't just pass it off as well, it was messages of John from the aisle of Patmas. I mean, why did he have to have visions of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamus just to write a few letters? And to whom were they written to churches that he knew in Asia Minor? Uh why would the Holy Spirit then give him uh those things plus the revelations that come thereafter? Revelations 4, 5, 6, 7. Uh was just revelations 2, three direct messages to Asia Minor and then the rest of them all symbolic? No, we don't believe that. We don't accept what brother Brandham says just because brother Brandham said it. It we are not those kind of people. We we literally read church history, look at it, look at where we are today, judge what has happened, and recognize that what he's telling us uh is the truth, right? And he's pointing us in a direction to look at this correctly. And and of course like I said in in um uh two Wednesdays ago that that church ages um teaching has become more personal to us than just being um messages to seven church ages. It's become personal to the individual. Okay. So that being said, to each church age, we believe a messenger was sent with a message to each gentile church age. Seven ages were prophesied and we believe that brother Brandham was the messenger to the last age. And there's plenty of reasons we can give you as to why we believe it. I mean, you just you just need to go back and read uh the last 100 year history of the Pentecostal church. Does it look to you that Billy Graham was was a messenger to an age? Uh what following did it produce? What did it do? Was it the same as the other messengers of other ages? Um was it Oral Roberts? Was it AA Allen? Was it anybody else in there? Who who was it that would have produced a movement away from the status quo? Can you find anybody? Well, if you can, you know, you can follow them. For us, from where I stand, someone who never even met this man, when I look at the message and I look at the history of the Pentecostal church, I see something. I see something that is notable, right? So, there isn't any other way to do it than just to say it. We believe he is the messenger to the last seventh church age of Leodysia. And why do we believe that? Like I said, not because he said so. Because we discern the signs of the times that they matched with the prophecies of the book of Revelations. Okay. Firstly, this is one of the first things we are criticized and labeled for because very few church denominations um believe in the seven church age uh seven church ages and believe that they were messengers. very few do. So because we are we break away from the norm, we are criticized for that and we are criticized for making him look more than he actually was, which they believe was a healing revival, healing revivalist evangelist. Um secondly, we believe he was one with the spirit of Elijah upon him uh to forun the second coming of the Lord. There is a very very serious uh thing that and one more thing we are heavily criticized for. Thirdly, we believe he displayed the messianic sign of discernment. Uh please don't mind the heavy thunder. Westful is very uh famous for it thunderstorms. I mean soon it's going to start pouring with rain. And so we believe he displayed the messianic sign of discernment and thus was the appearing of the son of man. Now notice he taught us there's a difference between appearing of the son of man and the coming of the son of man. Now here also with this there are many message believers who differ on what this means. So we would be criticized from within and without for these uh beliefs. Fourthly, the Elea Commission or Genesis 24 is to call out a bride from the denominational systems and religions of the world to give us a message that would set us on one common path and purpose. So far, we've just been criticized by denominations for those four beliefs and a little bit from within where from other followers of the message. Now this is where it splits up within the message. This is why I say it requires a balance. Fifthly, we believe the Lamb used this vessel, this man, this prophet to open the seventh seal in our day and reveal the rest of the seals to us to bring the book of Revelations 56 and 10 down to the bride to make the Bible a new book for us to unveil the enemy of our day to reveal the Christ of our day and to give us our purpose. Right? That's what we believe and that's that's putting it in the easiest possible way. And so I must admit, you know, seven church age messenger, one with the spirit of Elijah, one who shows the appearing of the son of man. Uh uh he's one who um um of Genesis 24 who uh is like Eliza who uh presents the bride to uh the the bridegroom. And then fifthly, one who the lamb uses to open the seventh seal. Listen people, let's let's be real. We who in a message when we make claims like this, this really looks like a lot to place on one man. You don't blame people for for saying you guys just make too much of him. He's just a man and look at all his faults. How can he be all that you claim him to be? Well, yes. This is what we are going to be criticized for. But this is what we believe. The thing is it's not the man that we make much of. We haven't even met this man, right? It's the message that he brought that we are attracted to and the truth uh that we see in it. So the question is do we believe him or not? Right? What he said about his own ministry. Do we believe him? The Bible warned us that false Christs will arise in the last days and will deceive many. That doesn't mean we just reject them all without hearing them. If somebody comes up claiming to be something, you must hear them out, right? We must, if that wasn't the case, then uh there would be there would have been those who did not accept John the Baptist. There would have been those who just passed Christ off as a false Christ. They had to be the elect to hear all of them and decide. So we believe because Christ is Hebrews 13:8, his word and his ways do not change. And that is how we identify him. We identify him by his characteristics through the Bible. We can identify Elijah by the Elijah of the Bible. We can identify the messengers by the other messengers that were like Paul. we can identify if there is a Christ in this day, he would have to have the same nature of the Christ in that day. So that's the way we apply Hebrews 13:8, right? So let's understand the roles and this is the part you know that is always difficult for people to swallow. Not that we want them to do that or to just believe what we say but understanding the roles. So the seventh messenger from Revelations 3:14 to20 that's the messenger to the Leodysian church age would be a man who would come and u if you read the message to that section of Leodysa they're wretched miserable poor naked blind they don't even know it they need eyesel for their eyes to see the things of God they need Raymond to be clothed there's so many things in there that we can match up to his ministry because it's how he preached he hit out against the spirit of organized religion. He u smashed church traditions that were ineffective. Uh he he preached cood. He preached uh some of the mysteries. He um criticized some of the doctrines that were uh gone haywire and and showed how they could be corrected and so on. Then Elijah from Malachi 45 and 6. there's something we'll we'll speak a little bit about that um in a little while. Uh why that why why is that necessary? Why not just you know leave this contentious issue out? Okay. Then is this the son of man, the messianic sign, which is the discernment of the heart of the people, which is something that uh we see in the time of Christ where uh whenever he discerned their hearts, they recognized this as the sign of the Messiah and people like the woman at the well knew that this was um a sign that they were looking for. Right? So uh the fourth which is the lamb who comes down and the brings the book of revelations 5:6 and 10. And uh this was promised for our day that we would have this book coming down to the believer to give us the ability to speak again rights 108-11. And then there's number five which is Elisa. The Eliza commission from Genesis 24 is to go and find a bride for Isaac. So, we sincerely believe that this is what has been manifested in this man's ministry. Does it look like a lot? Oh, yes. It looks like a lot. It looks like we're placing way too much upon this man. This man who who does not even look worthy of this, right? So, absolutely, we're going to draw the anger and the eye of of many people. Okay? So then there are the questions you need to ask yourself, right? Um and this is um very important because you need to decide what you believe and we're not forcing anybody to believe. This is completely up to you. But there are these are the questions that you need to ask yourself, right? How has this message affected you? This is really something deep, right? And and nobody can take this away from either. This message has affected you in a way that it has angered you so much. It's um made you somebody who you don't want to be, you know, and um it's made your life a misery. Or this message has drawn you to Christ, made you worship Christ. This this this message has drawn you to be somebody who took so much more interest in the Bible than than you were when you were in a denominational church or in some other religion. Number two, what is it about the message that attracted? This is very important. Were you attracted by the signs and the wonders? Were you attracted by the testimonies of brother Bam? Were you attracted by the stories of um uh his children and those who were around him uh who were telling us about what what he did and what he said and how this miracle happened and that miracle what is it about the message that attracted you? You need to answer that or was it the word? Number three is why you of all the people in the world why you? It's a very personal question you need to answer. Right. Number four. Have you ever heard anything like this before in your life? Has has anything ever challenged your soul like this before? Right? Because some of us some of you might have been in the denominational churches. You you have seen you have experienced denominational preaching cultures um um creeds, dogmas, Bible schools. You have experienced it. Our question is, have you ever heard anything like this before? Why would you never leave it after having heard this? Number five, excuse me. Once you have heard the truth, have not your eyes been open to the fraudulent Christianity around you? In other words, there's there's so many things. The diluted Christian theology that is being preached today in churches just does not cut it for us. It does not feed our souls. We cannot stand the uh hypocrisy, not to mention the lewd living and the uh immorality that is so easily accepted on the pulpits. um the dressing that is just careless and not even careful that you're walking into the presence of the Lord. So many things, right? That just looks completely fraudulent as uh uh of Christianity today. Number six, do you find yourself on the persecuted side? I guarantee you, you go into any Christian denomination today, you are you are not being persecuted. There's nobody persecuting. you're living such a wonderful life. Nobody's bothered with you. Nobody's calling you um uh you know uh or calling you out because of your Christianity. More than likely, you'll be called out for your political uh stance in society rather than being a Christian. And you're not even going to be persecuted for it. Right? But if you're on in the message, oh yes, you are going to be vilified, um, researched, chased after, investigated, your life put online, and so on. This is what they're going to do, right? You're going to be on the persecuted side. Okay? So what's important for us here is if you have a spiritual eye you have you and you if you already have one it is most uh most probably why you were attracted to the message in the first place because even as a denominational Christian you were not satisfied with what was going on there. You were seeing things that were upsetting you. You were seeing things that were just it was just not feeding your soul. You were seeing the immorality. You were seeing the callousness. You were seeing the casualness, the lacadasical life, the ministries that come there having probably drank and slept at 2:00 in the morning on Saturday and come there dosily, take a scripture and tell us something clever. These are all things that I've heard people tell me, right? It's only recently that you're actually getting some denominational preachers who are literally trying to speak some words and usually they're getting it from people like Jordan Peterson and you know other philosophers of this world and because they're seeing so many things on on YouTube. They're not even studying the Bible for themselves or getting into the word. They and if you question them, they really don't even know anything about church history. And only as of lately you're starting to hear things and there's they're they're speaking at least some substance which you have now people listening and mostly educated people who are sitting there and enjoying this uh this kind of um you know um theology that is that is appealing to intellectual minds. But we've been going for decades rejoicing on the word, right? And uh things they wouldn't even sit in and listen to because they just couldn't handle it. So that's where we are. And then when we look at this and we look at the political world and we look at what's been happening, we notice something very important that of what what he said in Matthew 24. And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be. As it was in the days of Sodom, so shall it be. We look at society and we see uh the morality the rather the immorality. We see the prophecies of the book of revelations. We see the the all the prophecies of Christ that are that are coming to pass in our day. And when we see these things, we recognize that it is time for Messiah to come again. things that we may not have seen in back then in uh Wesley's day or Luther's day or something like that. We see the day so much uh uh happening uh the immorality being being normalized by Hollywood and by music music we we we see I mean if you just take the music industry there has never been another time like this day that the music industry uh has ever been what it is never. I mean, just a hundred years ago, we had music that everybody could listen to. There were there were no bands that were, you know, running around uh singing about drugs and about alcohol and about fornication and, you know, music that was widrepping the hearts of youth and and people. We've never seen that before. This is this age. This is what we're looking at. They're literally singing about sexuality and every single song is about sexuality. It's about perversion. I mean, when when we look at that as regular people who recognize that of what Christianity should be, we're seeing the signs of the times. This is why another reason not just because William Brandon said so, therefore we believe it. No, our eyes are open to what's happening around us. Right? Okay. Then the message. What has the message done for us? What has the message uh uh spoken to us? Why is it so appealing? And and what I'm going to list out to you will show you it's got nothing to do with the stories of William Brandham or the prophecies or the bridge or the brown bear or the pillar of fire over his head. Nothing. It's got nothing to do with that. If you look at what it is that appeals to us, it is this. Okay, so here's the message. The messages put these things for us into perspective. before creation, creation, serpent seed, and the original sin, the law of Moses. There's many denominations today who who believe the Old Testament is for the Jews, and there's no reason for us to read it or study it or even study the law of Moses. There there's no reason. We just need to refer to some prophets here and there and the Bible stories and that, but there's really no reason. there's the majority of them actually despise the Jews, right? Which we don't. Um, number five, it put in perfect perspective for us the first coming of the son of man, the true purpose of Calvary, the true baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, the Godhead, who God is, and how he chose to manifest himself by the word through the ages, adoption, predestination, the middle of the road with predestination, Calvinism versus Armenianism, right? with the with the um the godhead, the trinitarianism versus oneness, um the lamb's book of life, whether your names were in it, names that could be added on, names that could be blotted out, the meanings of all those things. These are things they don't teach in the in the denominations. The book of Revelations, oh my goodness. Okay, they just don't touch it in the denominations. And if they do, it's like a watered down fantasy tale with a literal belief of dragons and red horse, white horse, and apocalypse and all that kind of stuff. It's meaningless to us what they teach. Uh then he restored true holiness to our purpose, true righteousness to God's people in the form of dressing, worship, prayer the right way, gifts of the spirit handled correctly, true church order, right? These are just a few of the things that we have been through in the message that makes the word so meaningful to us. Okay, I want to show you something. when it comes to the message of Christ. Okay. And this was uh a really um big deal in that time because many people saw the miracles and they were really amazed at the miracles. Um but this is probably one of the to me the greatest things that I've seen there in the gospel of Christ. I want to share this um scripture with you. Luke 4:32. And they were astonished at his doctrine, for his word was with power. When you break that down, his word was with power. So they were astonished at his doctrine, that is the the the way he taught the the word, Christ, the way he taught the word, the way he applied it to daily life, that is doctrine. Applied word is doctrine, right? And they were amazed. They were astonished. Now a lot of people who read this do not know what the word astonished means to us. Astonished is like amazed, right? They were not just amazed. The the Bible gives us an explanation of what astonished is. And it's really quite something. So if you look in your Greek lexican explos to be astonished, look at it. To strike out, to expel by a blow. to drive out or drive away. To cast off by a blow, to drive out commonly to strike one out of self-possession, to strike with panic, shock, astonished, to be struck with amazement, right? So, it's not just they were amazed at his doctrine, like they were wonder, "Oh my goodness, what beautiful doctrine." No, they were shocked. They were panicked. They were they were there. It was as if they were struck with a blow. That's what that's what it's saying. So the word of the son of man produces completely different reactions from people. You know, I love the the confidence that people have today, including some of these antibrand people who think if Christ appeared, they just accept him. They just know him. He'd come and preach. You know, if Christ had to come here today and tell you how to sharpen up your dressing, do you think this world is going to accept it? if he's going to come here today and and shout at them about uh their televisions and watching stuff that is filled with such corruption and lwdness. Do you think they're just going to accept it today that he's going to tell them give up your smoking, drinking, give up all of this? To think that Christians today feel like all of that is okay, that you can still be a Christian, that you can be a Christian, preach and also curse and swear with the same mouth. And you can see this in America, right? Nominal churches, they just if you look in the internet, all the greatest advocates for Christianity, they curse and swear like it's nobody's business, right? It's it's no issue for them to talk about Jesus Christ and the word and curse at the same time. But you go to these churches and this is what they advocate. You come out of a denominational church and uh you walk out of the doors after the sermon and there are people smoking in the parking lot. Uh there are people cursing, swearing, all of that. Not not long after that, they'll go to the to a bar for a drink together with friends. Is this really what Christ accepts as human life? Are these people really telling us that this is what it's going to take to to to to be in a millennium someday bowing before Christ when you cannot he suffered the cross. You cannot even uh mortify the deeds of the flesh but think that oh grace grace right grace is upon us. The blood of the lamb has washed us clean but you can still just live some lacadasical life. This is different to who we are who are always self-correcting and holding ourselves accountable for our faults. You don't find this in the denominations. They don't care. You literally have drunk priests, right? Um, so knowing all of this is one thing. Having respect and honoring the man as all that we have mentioned is good. But here's what I want to talk to you message believers. Satan is not going to leave you once you have made up your mind. Once you said, "Okay, I I agree. seventh messenger, one with the spirit of Elijah, uh appearing of the son of man by the second pole. Um Elisa commission um the vessel chosen to uh reveal the seven seals. You know once you okay I I accept all these things. Listen people, Satan is not going to leave you alone. Everything about you about those beliefs is going to be challenged. So let us understand that the road to the rapture is a very long one. None of the other saints in the Bible achieved it. They were all hoping for it or waiting for it. They believed it was in their day. It just never came in their day. In this day, accepting William Branom as God's end time prophet is only a start. It's this is the thing about message people. It's like you you think you've got security because you've done that. It's only the start. is the most basic part of your faith for this day. So why do we need to find a balance with him? It has always been the nature of men to go off on a limb and follow a man. He warned us of that. Our question today is are we following Christ or William Brham? Question for you message people. Now this is why we need to find a balance. There are those who say, you know, William Brandham's word was Christ and many good sincere people who have been taught to parrot the statement without even being given the understanding. This requires revelation with the statement. The statement is haphazard. Christ may have given his word to William Brandham for this a for that age. That doesn't make everything that William Brandon preached the word of God for this age. If you read that uh any book, he's talking as a man. Then he might speak as Elijah. Then he might speak as uh a son of man revealing the son of man. Then he might just he might switch back to just be speaking like William Brandom speaking like a man. Uh he might be many things in one message, right? So it's a very haphazard statement just to because you have now elevated this man to much more than you should taken everything that he says as thus sayeth the lord. So you know those there are people in the message who say everything he said is thus sayith the lord. So we are not allowed to question anything he said. This is also an error right? Not everything that brotherham said was thus sayeth the lord. Don't let them tell you that. when it was he said so. There were many times where he said this is me speaking. This is how I see it. There were many times where he spoke concerning he spoke like a concerned messenger of an age. There were times when he spoke like an angry prophet like Elisha. There were times when he spoke as just a man who was like a frustrated servant. All right. Okay. That brings us to brother Brandham as Malachi 4. And that's the scripture we read in the beginning. All right. So what do we believe on this exactly? Okay. So I read Malachi 4 in the beginning because I wanted you to see what the uh chapter it's a short chapter six verses and what it is about. So I've heard several things in the last few days that Malachi 4 was to Israel. It's got nothing to do with the Gentile. Therefore, you cannot apply it to anybody here. Okay. I've I've heard it being said that Christ said that Elias was John the Baptist. Yes. And we believe that. Okay. So, what do we believe then? Why? What right do we have to claim that Elias or the one with the spirit of Elias in our day was this humble prophet? What right do we have? So this is what we believe. So I'm speaking to you young people of the message and those of you who probably are new or something like that. We believe that according to the Bible, as it says in the Bible, John the Baptist went in the spirit of Elijah with the power to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. Right? And we believe that John the Baptist fulfilled half of it, part of it. And this is something we're going to be massively criticized for. I could imagine any anti-brand person hearing me that is just losing their minds, right? So why would you why would you say that? So, we believe that part of Malachi 4 was manifested in John the Baptist, but that there is part of the prophecy outstanding. Well, how can you say that? Simply because we have 2,000 years of church history that makes us believe that because everything in Malachi 4 has not been fulfilled. Everything that was said of Elias has not been fulfilled. The second coming of Christ has not uh been realized in the church ages. It didn't happen in Peter's day. It didn't happen in Paul's day. They waited for it. They preached it. They said it was going to happen. They preached it in every other day. Irenius, Martin, Luther, Columbbo, whoever they were, they all believed Christ was coming. Christ was coming. Christ was coming. And many of them believed there was going to be an Elias before Christ came. There was actually a split in the Catholic church. I believe it would have been the Orthodox church. So there was the Catholic Church who believes that John the Baptist fulfilled Malachi 4. Then there was the split. The Orthodox church believed there must be a literal return of Elijah. So there literally was a split on that belief. And the majority of churches I think who came out from the Catholic Church whether it was Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican, Presbyterian, whoever they were, uh many of them believed that John the Baptist fulfilled Malachi 4. And then especially when it came to the last age in uh uh uh the Pentecostal age, many people believe that Elijah is coming. Okay. So is are we the only ones to believe it? No. If you take the Jews um themselves, the Jews keep the Passover. You might not know this, but they pour a cup of wine for Elijah uh during the feast of Passover and leave a door opened uh at night for him to come in and drink from his cup. And it's a thing, you know, that I think they may have taught their children. Maybe it's become a tradition over time. Obviously, probably not in the Bible and in the law of of the Levitical law or something, but it's something that the Jews did over time. And in the morning, the children would all come and they would stare into the cup of Elijah to see if he had drunk from it. This is something the Jews are looking forward. They're looking for Elijah to come. Some Christian denominations believe that there must be a ministry that is the spirit of Elijah will come upon somebody that must prepare the people and bring warning of judgment and prepare the people for the coming of Christ. Then there are those who believe in the literal return of Elijah the prophet who didn't die but was taken up by chariots and they believe that that's why he's going to come back because he didn't die. He must come back to suffer death. and they believe that it will be the literal Elijah who will return according to Revelations 11 as one of the two witnesses. So yes, like I said, there were there uh I said before, I can't remember which segment would have been the third segment where I said there are no references from the Lord Jesus or the disciples or even Paul to state that John the Baptist had fully manifested Malachi 4. All that the Bible tells us is that he went in the spirit of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. And for us, because it is not said that he turned the hearts of the children to the fathers, we know uh all over the message what we believe in. And that's what I'm going to explain to you. Okay? But those people who claim that John manifested Malachi 4 1-6 and he was Elijah the prophet. They are if you say that that he manifested turning the hearts of the fathers to the children. You need to explain that to us. Then you need to explain what it means to turn the hearts of the children back to the fathers. How did John turn the hearts of the children to the fathers? And and then you need to explain to us the day of the Lord which everyone interpreted including Peter and all of them interpreted as the day of judgment uh after the second coming of Christ and they all preached it and believed it to be in their future. So if you choose to believe so listen Andy Brandon people it's not enough to tell us we're wrong that he was not Elijah and that John the Baptist fulfilled it. You need to tell us how John the Baptist fulfilled it. Explain it to us, right? It's Please don't fight with us and shame us and call us false online and all of this stuff. Don't be trolls. Tell us the truth. Tell us what you believe. Don't just spit it out at us and tell us John the Baptist fulfilled it. Tell us, explain. How did John the Baptist ministry turn the hearts of the father to the children? And how did John the Baptist ministry turn the hearts of the children to the fathers? Do you know that John the Baptist ministry was widely rejected and barely made any dent among the Jews at that time? You say it was for the Jews. What did it do? Jesus Christ came and the Jews rejected him. So who did Jesus Christ come to? Where did his ministry go? Where did his gospel go? It went to the Gentiles. Right? There were a uh the first church was made up of a few Jews, right? 120 and then from there went on and became part it spread. So if you choose to believe like the majority of Christian denominations from Catholic, Lutheran and many online Protestant denominations that John the Baptist indeed fulfilled Malachi 45 and 6. Then you have to explain to us how the heart of the fathers to the children were turned and how the heart of the children to the fathers uh were turned to prevent the earth from being struck with a curse from God. Please explain to us what the curse from God would have been had it not been for John the Baptist. Um I know that the the the casual diluted denominational explanations to this. Uh okay, I've read them for years. I've heard them from Jehovah's Witnesses and from Adventists and from many other people. I've I've heard them all. Pentecostals are are the worst, right? Literally don't know anything. Uh and so, did John's ministry indeed turn the hearts of people to God? That's a question you need to answer. Not really. John the Baptist, go read. He was a he was seen as a troublemaker. He was rejected by the majority of Israel. What I'm asking is whose hearts were turned, right? And how? What does it mean? The Jews believe that Malachi 4:5 and 6 where he turned or verse 6 where he turns the heart of the fathers to the children. They take that literally to mean he when he comes like uh they they believe like the fathers and the children of households would be divided like there'd be animosity between them and that when when Elijah will come he will he will reconcile fathers and children the you know he will make relationships he will restore relationships that are broken that's what the Jews believe. So what do you believe? Right? So I I this is why I'm saying when we speak about it and it brings question up in our young people, I want to I want to say what we believe, right? And then you you can tell us what you believe. So um you need to explain to us, right? And so if you cannot do it, all he can do is troll us and and and attack us as false teachers and and uh whatever it is, it's not enough. You need to tell us why and how. Okay? And then match it to our explanation. So um when you look at John the Baptist ministry and uh the effect of it, it really was not accepted by anybody else. And um something you need to know is do you know the the majority of John's uh u followers and disciples did not even follow Jesus. They were very skeptical of Jesus and they very few turned to follow Jesus and many were uh dejected and then when Christ started speaking his third pole ministry they left him. Those who came and were observing because John pointed him out they left him. Right? So uh you need to explain to us and uh the Jews believe it means reconciling fathers and children. John the Baptist didn't do that. John the Baptist ministry did not reconcile relationships of fathers and children. It just didn't. Right? you there's no record in the Bible of uh fathers and children's relationships becoming wonderful and sweet. No, neither did Christ. It's completely opposite. The ministry of Christ, the ministry of John the Baptist and Christ did completely the opposite. Christ even said, "I do not come to bring peace. I came to put a sword between father and son, mother and daughter, etc." You can read that in the Bible. So who are the fathers and who are the children? Antibrandom people, please tell us. That's what you need to answer. So this is what we believe. Okay? And I'm going to try and simplify this so we can understand it. So this the the the the simple can understand this. We believe the law of Moses was diluted by the leaders of Israel. So the law of Moses, the old the word of the Old Testament was the foundation. We believe that the foundation of our faith was rooted in the patriarchs and the prophets of the Old Testament. Why do we believe this? Because we can see it in the holy city, the new Jerusalem. We can see the representation of the patriarchs in the holy city, right? We we we can see the gates, the angels, the the foundations. That's that's how we understand. And we see the 24 elders around the throne as being 12 patriarchs, 12 apostles, we we we see that not as literal men but as the word, right? So when you look at the the law of Moses and how the leaders of Israel abused and manipulated it such that they killed all the prophets, turned the temple of God into a den of thieves. There came a time in Israel for a few hundred years that no prophets prophesied. It was the silent this the this time of silence uh that occurred uh silence of God until Christ until John the Baptist just there were just no prophets right dur from Malachi there was no prophets during this time of silence people became desperate for the word desperate for direction priests of the temple the ark had disappeared and they were doing burnt offerings and atonement and taking the blood in behind the veil and the ark wasn't wasn't even there. So, uh, which was revealed after the the temp the the the veil was rent and um there was no ark, right? So, fathers represent the foundations of the faith and children represent the manifestation of the faith. That's really quite easy, right? So what happened under the law age which is the father's dispensation right uh was that the foundations had been corrupted and needed to be turned back to benefit the children that is the heart of the fathers it is the foundation of the faith which was of the fathers right and John the Baptist and Christ's ministry was to bring forth the cornerstone stone upon which the building was going to be built. So what happened under the law age was that the foundations being corrupted needed to be uh restored. It's no mystery to us what had been done. So when John the Baptist and Christ appeared, he John was calling for repentance. Repentance from what? Repentance from all that was being done and transgressed in that which had been brought by the prophets of old. right? Not the prophets of the future, not the messengers of the future, but the prophets of old. So, um uh he brought correction. Uh he attacked the Pharisees. He challenged the ministry of that day. Uh both John and Christ uh did this and they pushed back and changed uh everything back bringing it back to the original word. This is why they were astonished at his doctrine. Both John and Christ attacked the Pharisees and the priesthood in exactly the same way. There are literally chapters in the Bible where it shows John when the Pharisees come to the to the Jordan and he just attacks them. Uh and then when Christ speaks to them, woe unto you scribes and Pharisees and just attacks them, tears them to pieces, right? Read Matthew 23. calls them asps and adders and vipers and whatever you know criticizes uh how they take advantage of widows and how they seek the best seats in weddings, how they broaden their felactories and he just tears them to pieces. Okay, so these are the scriptures in the Bible that record uh or rather there are these scriptures that record how John and Christ both did this. So they had to reinterpret the law to them. That's what their ministry was about. Moses gave you a law of divorcement, but from the beginning it was not so. Moses said, "Thou shalt not kill. I say unto you, if you have been angry with your brother without a cause, you have killed already." Uh he had to bring them the true wisdom of the law. Uh the true wisdom of the Sabbath. All of those things he had to reinterpret, not do away with, but reinforce it. I did not come to do away with the law. I came to magnify the law. Right? So in and and Christ then even says to the sirenian woman, I am not come to give the children's bread to dogs. He I'm come to the children of Israel. Right? He come to turn the heart of the fathers to the children. That is what that ministry did. It came to bring back the purity of the law and to show that Christ was the fulfillment of the law. Right? So thereby re reestablishing a cornerstone and a firm foundation of faith. Okay, people. Then we saw after John the Baptist and Christ, we see 2,000 years of Christian church built upon that foundation and a total smashing of um the of Israel taken out of their homeland uh being spread across the earth and all that kind of thing for the rejection of the Messiah. So when we look at 2,000 years of Christian church built upon the foundation, there is no need to go through all the history today. But we saw the church travel. We we literally if we go and read it, we saw the church travel from Jerusalem to Asia Minor to Rome to France to Germany to England to America and from America to the entire world, the rest of the world. What started off among the Jews as a reawakening by a true foundation spread across the world among gentile tribes and nations and people. Once again, that original foundation of faith was diluted by nations and everything that Christ through the Holy Spirit was building up through the church ages, the baptism of the Holy Ghost, the the new teachings of Christ, the things set out for the Christian church by Paul, everything became desecrated and damaged and diluted. Till now the children, the heart of the children has been damaged. come the end of 2,000 years. Now, the heart of the children need to be turned back to the fathers. Right? So, the generation there would be a generation that would rise in the end of the church, the prophecy of the church that would be much more evil than any other generation. And it would take um or any other generation that would take the gospel. And this new generation would destroy it with the spirits of liberalism and legalism. And that's exactly what we see in the world today influenced by America. They were desecrated with politics, with religious tradition, with traditions of gentile men. The church of today has become a joke till religions of the world, atheism, so many things are uh uh literally laughing at it. Right? So, we also noted that some of the things Christ prophesied of had not come to pass in the 2,000 years. So, those of you who say that it's all been fulfilled and so on, you need to explain to us what is the abomination that maketh desolation. uh that make a desolate. What is what are all um that Christ prophesied in Matthew 24? Please explain to us where it has come to pass and what the manifestations are. Also tell us which denomination explains all those manifestations correctly. Which one should we follow? Which one should we believe? Please tell us. And if you claim all of them are right, which one of them has the Holy Spirit and which one of them doesn't? Which one is is explaining it correctly? Fine. You just want to label us and we're cult. He's a false prophet. You leave. You go off. You you spend time shaming us and and trolling us. But what do you believe? Which which denomination is the right one? Please tell us. And which one has got the the manifestations of Matthew 24 correct? All right. Will this the sun literally be turned dark and the moon turned to blood and the stars literally fall to the ground um at the time of the coming of the son of man? What is it? Please explain to us. Right? Uh we have all the answers that we have in the message. We know what those things mean. We know what the symbols mean. It's it's fantastic to us. There's absolutely no reason for us to go to any Bible school or because it's so clear to us where we are today. We literally have no desire to listen to you or to hear anything else because we believe the message has revealed it to us. Okay? And we're not playing church. So, um, all Christians still believe to this day that the day of the Lord, the judgment day is still pending. Right? And and so this day of the Lord was prophesied of in Malachi 4. They believe it is still pending. All Christian churches believe in the advent of Christ in the second coming of of Jesus. So do we. The the prophet's ministry to us indicated that the Christian church the children had lost contact because who are the children? They are the manifestation of the faith. Who are the fathers? They were the foundations of the faith. Right? In the last age of Pentecost in America, we saw the Christian church reach its final place of development. There is no development from there. We can literally see it. Right? We saw gifts being restored at the Zusa street then caused the people uh to no longer have connection to the original word foundation. The denominations took it, they abused it, they messed it up, right? Pentecostal denominations digressed at breakneck speed into all kinds of falsities. Listen, tell us we're wrong. We saw laughing in the spirit, spitting in the spirit, waving your coat, and all people falling down all over the place. We saw them speaking with tongue and sticking their tongues out like We've seen all this. We've seen all this happening in the Christian church, what is called the Christian church today, uh in mainstream Christian denominations. We've seen it. We've seen them begin to lose faith and uh and also this their group or or rather their their their hold and their grip on society. We've seen them lose their grip on society. Atheism begin to rise. We've seen it right now in America, the United Kingdom, in Europe. The young people do not want to be Christians anymore. And those who are becoming Christians are being labeled as rightwing. So which means all the Christian universities the universities built by the Christians the the the countries founded on Christianity are the universities the colleges are all become uh political machines that spew hatred against Christianity. So that's where it is right now and um that's what they believe in. This is absolutely not um the word of God according to uh the Bible that is now being purported as Christianity in mainstream churches. It just it just isn't. So um I believe that where we are today is in a very very dangerous place and that u the Christian church is being sucked into uh a place where it's going to be very hard for them to come back. Right? So look at where it is. What was once Christian society has begun to depend on science, education, evidence, faith is disappearing. Uh and they no longer keep the original faith of Jesus Christ. It all seems to have become forgotten. European countries that were once Christian strongholds and America are becoming places where Christian churches were being filled with people whose conscience did not even trouble them in unrighteous dressing, unrighteous forms of worship, diluted teachings of the Bible. That is the reason people it is that reason that we believe an Elijah ministry is necessary. We've seen uh this amalgamation of churches who don't agree with each other but are coming together for a common purpose and that common purpose is really eerie. It it it makes us it makes our skin crawl. Okay, I'm I'm going to even tell you why. So, we don't even believe it just because William Brandham said it. We believe it because we recognize the signs of the times. Therefore, we believe the duty of the ministry today was to fulfill the second half of Malachi 4 and that is to turn the heart of the children back to the fathers. That's our belief. Our belief is not based on deliberate denial of scripture. Oh, you're just denying what Jesus said. You know that Elias was John the Baptist. You are false because you don't believe what Jesus said. No, man. Come on. We believe what Jesus said. We believe that John the Baptist manifested manifested only half of it, only part of it. And that he himself did not identify himself as Malachi 4 for a good reason. He he was inspired to identify himself as Malachi 3. They they even question him. So if you are not Elias, if you are not that prophet, why what gives you the right to baptize? Okay, we're we're telling you what scripture says, right? Our um our belief is not based on denial of scripture. We're not even in disobedience to the word of Jesus and the gospels. Our belief is based on what we have seen in our lived experience. The Christian church people is in trouble worldwide. I'm telling you this because I have plenty of denominational friends. Okay. It's in trouble for two over 200 years and and and it's failing by the minute. Sure. They're they're building new churches. They're popping up churches all over the place. They're they're still trying they still believe they got to take the churches to Africa. But I'm telling you right now, the West needs missionaries from Africa. This is just the truth. The the the West has Christianity that is so diluted. It's it's crazy. Uh and I'm not even talking about message churches. I'm talking about denominational churches because we're actually seeing more dedication here and more exit from Christianity in Europe and in America. Um what we're seeing now I would say after the Charlie Kirk effect uh is is a is an exponential kind of desire to come back to the Bible because they're they themselves are recognizing what's happening in society. Um I recently heard uh um heard it reported that Richard Dawkins who wrote um you know the god delusion and u you know one of the greatest porters of atheism of my time um looking at what's happening in his public and saying I I I'm not sure of the word so I I don't want to get this wrong but as if he he is a cultural Christian. He does not believe in the Christian God, but he believes in in society being ruled by cultural Christianity because it's it's peaceful. And I don't know what reasons I I'm just remember hearing something and reading something about it, but I'm I'm saying that's a big thing. I used to watch the debates of that man with with Christians. Um um and I loved watching those debates with him and Christopher Hitchens and and other Christian denominational to see how they handle the atheism arguments. It was fascinating to watch this and and uh I think they are all good men both the atheists and the Christians. So um I I enjoyed their arguments but to see them realize that what they did was destroy their own society right and now the Christian church is struggling to bring young people back to the faith. So an appearing of a person with the ministry of Elijah to us was necessary for this time meant there had to be another outpouring of the spirit to show the book of acts again to remind people that the holy ghost is still very much alive in the church and in people who are dedicated to God accompanied by a good moral character while also taken a strong stand against organized religion uh and the traditions of men. To us that was accomplished in the first two polls of brother man's ministry. That is why we need to have a balance where we are today people those of you in the message. What has the duty of Malachi 4 done for us for you and I today here in 2026? What has it done for us? How are our hearts turned to the Pentecostal fathers or the fathers of the faith? We have already crushed uh sorry crossed that threshold into a secret bride age where we don't require the gifts and the constant outpouring to turn our hearts. We don't require that cuz the word has come to us. Right? The ministry of the first two poles was has settled that foundation uh question for us. The foundation has been settled, right? We've seen both former and latter reign. It weeded out all organized religion and traditions and set us on a straight path. Our attraction now is purely to the word. Okay, here's another thing. I tell you why we believe there needs to be an Elijah in this day. We also believe in the types and the shadows, right? If you look at the Elijah of old, God told him his commission had three parts. He had to anoint Elisha to continue when he's dead. He had to anoint Jahu who would kill Jezebel. He had to anoint Haziel the king of Syria, right? For good reasons to bring an end to Ahab's regime. So Elijah's the spirit of Elijah to go in the spirit of Elijah would mean to call out the Jezebel to judge the Jezebel and to judge the Ahab. Jahoo was to be anointed to judge the Jezebel. Haziel was uh to be anointed to judge the Ahab, right? To bring an end to it. So what we see then in the Elijah of old is all he was successful in doing was anointing Elisha. He did not complete the commission of God. He did not. It was not Elijah who anointed Jahu or Hazel. It was Elisha. Which means Elijah came to a point where he was running for his life. He was being criticized. His life was being hunted. He now had to come to an end. He now had to leave and his mantle would fall upon Elisha. So also we believe in this day there has to be an Elijah ministry that comes to point out the Ahab to bring judgment upon the Jezebel to show it to us to anoint Elisha. So the mantle would fall upon Elisha which we believe is the bride of Christ. Not another man, not another person in the message whose ministry it is to go and do this. No, no, no. It is the bride of Christ. We believe that Elisha types the bride of Christ and that through the bride would come the anointing or the chain reaction to bring judgment upon by exposing the Ahab spirit and the Jezebel spirit. That's what we believe. You may fault us. You may call us wrong, but that's what we believe because that's what we seeing needs to happen. I promise you. Uh there are you know there are a lot of anti-brandom people and um we uh if we speak to them we argue with them they get really upset they get angry they get out of control but if I speak to any denominational person all my denominational friends all the denominational friends of my family and and all of who we meet if if I talk to them and I tell them hey man what's going on in the church and they're all exasperated They're all like, you know, Brother Al, it's right. You guys are right. We We should be I literally have denominational ministers telling me the problem is it's our head officers. If we preach this, if we try to change things, they control us. They can just remove us. And then what about the people? I have friends who literally tell us this. We want to tell the truth. We want to speak the truth. We want to correct this dressing. You have no idea what we're going what we're dealing with there. There are literally adulteries between this one and that one, the deacon's wife and the pastor and the song leader and this they can't they have zero control over what's going on. They they have zero control over how the Holy Ghost must be run in the Pentecostal churches because one comes with the this, one comes with that. It's like the the church of Corinthians all over again. Listen, I we're not making this up. This is real. And and and this is what our friends are telling us. If we tell them, do you know there is an Ahab spirit? Do you know there's a Jezebel spirit? Do you see this? They cannot deny it. They they tell us, "Wow, this is amazing. This is true. We we see what you say. We just don't agree with you that William Brandham is a prophet and that this and that. We don't agree with the you you guys are Jesus only or something." and we have a good laugh at it, you know, but they cannot deny that this is what's scourging the Christian church right now. And these are our friends. Okay. William Brandom as a messenger. Okay. All message believers by faith believe that he was the messenger to the Leodysian church age. The question is, is he our messenger in the bride age? Right? And the answer is no. How can he be our messenger when he is dead and gone? How can he lead us if he's not here? Brother Alistar, what are you saying? This is why I'm telling you, I'll literally get hit by a sledgehammer by by many message people for saying what I'm about to tell you. But everything I tell you is from the message itself. It's from the Bible. It's in the types and shadows, right? How can brother Brandham be our messenger now when we are have been pulled out into a bride age? We've been pulled out of Leodosia. We're into the capstone. We're into the bride age. He told us plainly that he must decrease so another must increase. That another is again not another minister in the message. It is Christ. He said if you believe that brother Branham is your messenger in the bride age then you are doing what he told you not to do. You were doing what he this is why I say there needs to be a balance that you need to find a balance with this man. He you are doing what he told you other ages were guilty of and that is living in the glare of another age. Let me show this to you. Here it is. identified Christ of all ages 1964. Now the trouble with people today we find them living in the glare of another age. Just like Jesus found when he come he found them living in the glare of the law and ignoring what was to take place in his age. You know what's the matter today? What's the matter? What was the matter with the Lutheran? Well, because they were living in the glare of the Lutheran age when John Wesley found the secret of sanctification. They couldn't go because they were living in the glare of Luther's age. Now, here's the question. What happened to the Pentecostals? Why Wesley was so organized until he was living in the glare of another age? There was in Wesley when the baptism of the Holy Ghost fell upon a Pentecostals. So, they were living in what Wesley said of sanctification. It was hard for them to believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the restoration of the gifts. They was living in a glare of another age. That's what they was doing when Jesus come said, "We have Moses. We We have Moses." He said, "If you had known Moses, you would have known me. Moses wrote of me. Search the scriptures. For in them you think you have eternal life, and they are they that testify of me." That was the scripture that was supposed to be God identifying, interpreting his scripture for that age. And it's always Christ. It's Christ in every age. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever. It's always been Christ. Okay. Look at modern events made clear by prophecy. 1965, 6th of December, right? This is right towards the end of his ministry. People, I want you to notice something. He says at the end of his ministry, we're not living in a Pentecostal age. We're living in another age. So the the prophet himself is showing us a shift from Leodysia, which was Pentecost, to another age. We're not living in a Methodist age. We're living in another age. We're living on up here to the bride age, the calling out of the church and getting it together for the rapture. That's the age that we're now living in. To my honest opinion, that's exactly the truth. People, he identified the seventh age as the Pentecostal age and says right at the end of his of his ministry, only in the end of his ministry that we're no longer there. He recognized a shift from Leodysia into the bride age. Right? So those of us who believe he was the messenger to Leodysia, he's not the messenger to the bride age. Right? He's going, he tells us who that messenger is. So many of you feel may feel, hey, brother Alistister, what are you saying? You know, you you guys are deluded. You're misinterpreting everything. But this is our belief. This is our faith, right? If you read in works his faith expressed 1965 26th of November very close to when he died in the invisible union of the church the bride to Christ that messenger is here now which is Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever okay so I don't need to read more of the course you can go read it even in the seals the messenger Christ go search that up it will tell you the messenger to The bride in the bride age is Christ. Amen. He tells us that me the messenger for the bride is now Christ. That's after the seals that he William Brandham is decreasing as Christ is increasing. All right. And then he dies and we are we are not left alone. Right? What does this mean? If you think you are following William Brandham, you are being deceived because he is dead and already told us who is leading us. How can you follow a dead man? Right? That's what leads to bananomism when you are following a dead man. Now this needs balance, right? Because now I can just imagine the number of knives that are going to be coming into my back. Right? This is what leads to brandism and leads to people who say uh you know they are in the message and then eventually fall away and and uh from lack of depth in the word. You are no better than Lutheran and Methodists and and every other denomination that you criticized because you are claiming something and you're living in a glare of another age. It's he said it's always been Christ in every age. He was the only one who rose again. Here is the balance though. He brought the church. We believe the prophet brought the church up to the crossing over. That's what he taught in the statue of a perfect man in the church ages. It comes up towards the end. There's the Holy Spirit. It's it's the crossing over time. The the breach between the seven church ages and the seven seals. It's a crossing over from church to bride. I no longer call you church. I call you bride. So you understand, right? Why? because there needed to be a distinction between church and bride. So his ministry was definitely more significant than other messengers. That's what we believe because it was the time it was the age. Listen, let's say Paul had to come in the last age of the church where it was time to introduce Christ to uh the the church. So it would have been Paul. It's got nothing to do with William Brandham. It's doesn't matter who the vessel is. It's just the fact that it is in the last age and in the last age there's going to be the return of Christ and he now introduced the bride to the word for the word of God himself and that's why it is more significant than the others because of the time and uh the signs of the time and what was going to occur in the age. So to us, you know, if we're going to be criticized for saying he was a prophet like unto Moses, why? Oh my goodness, brother Alistister, how could you do this? Prophet like under Moses was Christ. Why? Right? We have literally seen a massive amount of people exit denominational strongholds to leave and travel through the wilderness with the message through the a wilderness of uncertainty and and learning and growing and fighting battles. What are we seeing? Why a prophet like under Moses? We saw a ministry lead the people to the crossing over, right? His ministry, like Moses, was to lead the people to the Jordan River, but he himself did not cross over. He saw the promised land by vision, showed the people, told the people what it would be, but himself did not cross over. Kept preaching like a forerunner. Right? So, did he cross over? No. That was Joshua's duty. Right? Moses was not allowed to cross over, but God showed him all the promised land and was able to preach. So, it's it's similar to Christ, right? Because Christ was the prophet like unto Moses. Did you ever ask yourself why Moses was not called a prophet like unto Christ? Okay, a prophet like unto Moses means someone who does the acts of Moses. The same way like going in the spirit of Elijah, right? So Moses was not allowed to experience it. So here was Christ. He brings the church up from takes them out of the age of law into the age of grace. But he himself dies and then says, "I will send you the comforter. He's the one who's going to lead you into all truth." Right? Therefore, Christ was a prophet like unto Moses. Why? Because he did the same acts of Moses. So this is what we see here also in the last days. We see an exit from organized religion bringing us up to the opening of the seven seals where we receive the book and then we are led by an invisible messenger into the promised land of our independence from church from organized religion. That was Joshua's duty. So Joshua led the people over, right? Let's let's let's read that. Let's read what is spoken of in in uh Joshua chapter 1 verse 1 to8. We can do this very quickly. Now after the death of Moses the servant of the Lord, it came to pass that the Lord spake unto Joshua. So after the death of Moses the servant, right? Uh saying Joshua the son of N. Moses minister saying Moses my servant is dead. There is the first thing. Moses my servant is dead. Now therefore arise and go over this Jordan. I want you to put yourself into this type for this day. Now therefore, speaking to Joshua, you take this people over, right? All this people into the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. Every place that the soul of your foot shall tread upon that that I have given to you as I said unto Moses. Notice till the referencing to Moses from the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast. There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. Be strong and of good courage, for so look at this. As I was with Moses, so shall I be with you. You can apply this to Christ and the Holy Ghost. As I was in the time of Christ, so is it going to be in the dispensation of the Holy Ghost. As I was here in the time of the Elijah of this day, so am I going to be with you, right? In the bride age. So be strong and of good courage. For unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which means the Holy Spirit is going to divide the land up for us, which I swear unto their fathers to give them. Only uh uh I I like this um statement of the fathers because now you can see the children and the fathers, right? Because uh he goes the first coming there is like in the time of Moses, Exodus from Egypt, you see them the fathers turning to the children. Now when you get to the promised land, you see all the fathers have died in the wilderness and it's the children now in the promised land and you now need to turn the heart of the children to the fathers. Right? It's it's all there saints. Only be thou strong and very courageous that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law which Moses my servant commanded. So here you have a commandment from God to even though Moses is not here. Stay true to all that I have commanded Moses my servant. Right? Turn not from it to the right or to the left that thou mayest prosper whethersoever thou goest. That means if you keep the word of Moses while you are being placed in the promised land, it's going to prosper you. That's why we still continue with the message. We believe we are servants of Christ. We are following Christ. He's our messenger. But we are staying with the word of the prophet. This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth, but thou shalt meditate therein. There it is. This this is why we will continue reading and studying and staying with it. You will you will meditate in it day and night that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein. For then thou shalt make thy way prosperous and thou shalt have good success. This is why we do what we do, right? We know we're not delusional. We're not following a dead man. We're we we we know exactly you know even when when uh Paul speaks about it in in in Hebrews chapter um sorry Romans chapter 7 when he said we are not married to the one who died we are married to the one who has risen right both speaking of Christ we're not married to the Christ who died we are married to the Christ who is risen it's a very important teaching there in the law right okay continuing before we close this down. So according to this understanding of the crossing over, Joshua is the symbol of our leader today. He's very different to Moses. Joshua is a type of Christ. What is important to see here is that God told Joshua to stay with the word of Moses. Joshua is a type of the Holy Spirit, right? Uh Christ, the Holy Spirit. Um meditate in it. It will prosper your way. So we are commissioned as the believers walking around in the promised land to meditate on the word of the prophet. If we meditate on that word, we will find our place in the promised land. Stay true to all that was given in the prophet. So as Moses acknowledged Joshua as the new leader, so did the prophet acknowledge the person of the Holy Spirit in this day. Let's look at uh in the message Revelations chapter 5 part two and then also the invisible union of the bride of Christ. I'm going to share that with you. Um so we can read this. Excuse me. Revelation 5 part 2 paragraph 61. Now Lord, as we quieten ourselves before you, feel that our great Joshua, the Holy Spirit, our divine leader of this day, this is not something I made up. This is something he told us in the message. I'm speaking to you message people. Don't stumble over this. Invisible Union of the bride of Christ 965. Let the Holy Spirit search your heart, uh, search your conscience. And you'll agree with Daniel 5:12 when the queen come in before Belshazar and said she found out that there was a prophet. Daniel was among them and he was a dissolver of doubts. You let the Holy Spirit, he is the prophet of the day. Let him come into your heart right now and examine within the you can within the word of God and the doubts about the message will be the doubts about the message will be all dissolved. He dissolves all the doubts. You find out it's exactly on the word of this day. You can literally see a crossing over or a changing over of the ministry uh shifting from the prophet to the holy spirit in our time to Christ. Amen. So saints um the prophet as a forerunner. Okay. And this is this is the part that another part we are constantly criticized about. We know this was his testimony that the Lord spoke on the river and said before the people that he would for the second coming as John for the first. We were not there. We didn't hear it. We can't prove it. We're not going to fight about it. Brother Brandon was clear about his role as the forerunner. If we read in the message shalom, he says in paragraph 195, John and Jesus couldn't be the same time. Jesus when John looked up and he said now I must decrease, he must increase. He knew he had to get out of the way so that Christ could take over. So were the type of John the Baptist. So where do we fit in? Right? Look at the type of John the Baptist. We look at the type of Moses. How about looking at the type of John the Baptist? So I'm asking you, if you look in the type, are you a disciple of John or are you or do you fall on the disciples of Christ? In the same way, if if William Brandham was a forerunner, are you the disciples of William Brandham or are we the disciples of Christ? See, this is what we believe. When the seals are open to you, you recognize who you are disciples of. What where was Peter when John the Baptist was preaching? Peter was uh the ministry with the was was part of the ministry with the with the real revelation of the son of man. John was pointing to the son of man. Peter was under the ministry of the son of man. Though John was preaching it, Peter could only emerge when Christ called him personally. So when when the the calling came and Christ said, "Whom do you say that I am?" And Peter said, "Some say they said some say you this, some say you that, but who do you say that I am?" Right? He was asking his disciples. Peter and the twel apostles or the 12 disciples were under Christ's ministry, not John's ministry. We do not fall under the people who were there in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s. We do not fall under that. We were not there to see it. We came afterward. We we came after the revealing of uh the opening of the seventh seal and the revealing of the seals. We come under the ministry of Christ who called us and said, "What think ye of the forerunner?" Okay. So, there are some who say that brother Brandham has fulfilled the work of Joshua and Christ. Right? If that is so, then all is over and we're now in tribulation. The bride has been raptured and we are the foolish virgin. How? However, as John saw a sign in the heaven, so did this prophet, believe it or not, to tell him that Christ, the son of man, was about to make his appearance in the church. Okay. Finally, brother Banham as a prophet. Okay. Uh let's go through very quickly before we close. go through um uh dut deuteronomy 18 again which is the famous scripture that they're using to correct him. Okay. Um so of course here's the quote. I must decrease he must increase. Deuteronomy 18:18-22. And I will raise up raise them up a prophet from among their brethren like unto thee. And I will put my words in his mouth and he shall speak unto him. Um, and I will put my words in his mouth. He shall speak unto them and all that I shall command him. This is in the same Deuteronomy 18, right? And and so we know this we know was Christ. I will raise up them a prophet from among their brethren like unto thee. He's talking to Moses. And uh Peter says it in Acts chapter 3 confirms it that Christ was that prophet that Deuteronomy 18 was talking about. And then verse 19 says, "It shall come to pass that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which you he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." So when that prophet comes and if you don't obey that word, I'm going to judge you for it. Right? The reason he's called a prophet like to Moses is to let people know that his word is the word of God. That he's not just saying uh whatever he speaks, he's speaking what God told him to say. And it means that sometimes God literally is speaking through him at the point in time and the prophet is not in control of what he is saying. Okay, that's what he's saying. Verse 20. Uh, but the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. the question of brother Brandham's death came up and they said people were saying well that's why he died because God didn't take him away because he said things you know that were not uh uh that God didn't tell him to say this does not indicate that he said something wrong all the prophets were killed in gruesome ways however we need to realize that at times he spoke as a man at other times it was the word of God himself speaking this is why it requires a balance you can't take the words of a man who said something on the coming of the Lord because he was expecting it to come in his day and yet it was not literally God speaking. It may have been something that God told him to say or something to challenge the faith of the people. Without the balance, finding the balance with this man, you're going you're going to have many people thrown off. Right? Verse 21. And if thou say in the if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the Lord had uh not spoken? When a prophet speak the name of the Lord, if the thing follow nor come to pass, uh that is a thing which the Lord had not spoken, but the prophet uh that has spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him. So this is how we know he was a true prophet yet. So listen in this verse 22, it's not telling you when a prophet speak in the name of the Lord, if it if it does not follow, uh he's a false prophet. It doesn't say that. Right? It says, "The thing was the Lord had not spoken, but the prophet has spoken presumptuously. Thou shalt not be afraid of him." In other words, don't take what he's saying. Right? Don't don't don't worry about it. It's not saying you must kill him. It's not it's not even saying he's not a prophet. It's saying the prophet had spoken it presumptuously. He's still a prophet, right? You can't fight with that scripture. It's actually telling you he's the prophet had spoken it presumptuously. Thou shalt not be afraid of that. Right? So without the balance we will we will make predictions a prophecy to us. This so this is why I'm saying this is literally telling you that prophets do speak presumptuously and and the reason they speak presumptuously is because of the anointing of God in their lives. They start to see things. They start to recognize things. they start to to to see things that uh is affecting them and they're going to predict things and and and and say other things that God didn't even say to them. And um so this is uh telling us that you must be very careful when you read things in the message and you read into some of those things and then you start saying um this that he predicted is a prophecy. Don't do that. Right? Deuteronomy uh 34:10. And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses whom the Lord knew face to face. So this is the one of the scriptures we read in the beginning. The Jews knew that the prophet like unto Moses would be the Messiah because this was uh later revealed through the other prophets. But notice if the message and the life of William Brham was like unto Moses, if you know that's what we're saying, it was um like unto Moses, then it means to us that Christ the Messiah was himself using this vessel as a secret to call his bride like Eliza, not trusting a man. He had to do it himself. You cannot say that the scripture says this hasn't happened, right? This was amongst Israel and Christ and Christ came and they didn't even know it. Right? The prophet like unto Moses came and they didn't know it. Right? So here's the prophet here in our day among the Gentiles was the only prophet among the Gentiles who was like unto Moses who came and literally said there is a third exodus. No other minister in the Pentecostal age has said that. He said there needs to be an exodus. There needs to be a bride being pulled out of a church. A man with faults like Moses. A man who stammering lips like Moses. A man feared like Moses. A man loved like Moses. A man hated like Moses. A man whose word was kept like Moses. A man whose word was rejected like Moses. A man who knew God face to face like Moses. A man who led the people to the crossing over like Moses. This is what we believe. Hate us for it. Deny it whatever you want to. This is what we believe. Young people. uh brother Madam as Eliza referring to Genesis 24. He was um Isaac's representative calling Rebecca from a foreign land to a groom she had never even seen. She'd never even heard of calling him calling her to a bridegroom. Listen, look at where we come from, right? Rebecca had heard. She believed every word. She was taken to her groom by the word of Eleaza. This is what we believe. This is what the message does for us. We believe the message is leading us to Christ. Right? We're not worshiping the prophet. We believe it's leading us to Christ. We believe this. And she learned everything about Isaac from Eliza. We love the types. Did Brother Ram say there was no more after him? Did he claim he was the pinnacle? He was it. There was nothing more. Did he claim that? Absolutely not. Let's uh look at that in closing. Uh question and answers on the seals. Question 22. Would the bride of Christ um would the bride of Christ have a ministry before the rapture? Sure. That's what's going on right now. The bride of Christ certainly. It is the message of the hour. The bride of Christ, sure. She consists of apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists, and pastors. Is that right? That's the bride of Christ. Sure, she's got a ministry, a great ministry. It's the ministry of the hour. It'll be so humble. He did not say it ended, it started and ended with him. No, he didn't. In the message investments many of you know this quote because some people quote it so often in verse in paragraph 20 he said as I'm getting old this was 1963 third of August as I go down along the road that this young fellas will come up to take this gospel in a more powerful way than it is now a more powerful way than it is now. As the generations go the enemy comes in. God keeps raising the standard higher and higher and higher until finally they meet with Christ. That's who we look forward to seeing. Anyhow, these young men he spoke of were the ones responsible who would come and bring us the message, right? And uh uh in the seventh seal, he spoke of another cycle to come. We know that this was the cycle of the bride and that he started it for us. We know this. This is what is spoken of in the seventh seal. Right? So something supernatural happened in the life of this prophet in 1963. Saints uh which truthfully he didn't understand himself. This experience was something that he had never se seen that had never been done before. There was no type for it in the Bible. There's Revelations 101:7. is Revelations 8:11. The second coming of the Lord and the mystery of it still baffles even message people worldwide because many were just taken with the man and we're living in the glare of another age. I know I will be severely criticized and vilified and even shamed for saying some of these things that I have. But you know what? I've reached a stage that I don't care anymore. Can say what they want to about me. I just don't care. I've reached the point where there's so much of junk on the internet, so much of rubbish being spoken off against the prophet and the message. I just feel like it's time to put out what we believe. Stop listening to what other people say we believe. Let us say what we believe. And I don't care anymore. They can call us cults. They can call us what they want to. Here it is. They can research me. They can I've been told they're coming after me. I I don't care. They They're going to research me. You're going to investigate me. Do what they want to do. I believe it's time we say what we believe. Let the Holy Spirit deal with it. Amen. That's the reason. That's the only reason I have children in the message. I want I want to see that there is going to be a church. If God should take me away, that there's still going to be the faith continuing for my children. That's the only reason I'm doing this, right? I know. So, I know what's going to happen and it's going to come at me. But even by those in the message they're you know just saying the some of the things that we've said those who left the message by some who follow the message just know that I don't say any of these things to hurt anybody I don't say any of these things to ostracize others or demonize any person I've got no authority to do that I'm simply expressing to those who have become discouraged to perhaps remind you of what we believe or why why we believe it to put it in a way that perhaps Perhaps you are you perhaps was not presented to you before this way. We all know as readers of the book of revelation that there is a one world system already in preparation and the world is priming itself in global trade to create exactly what the book of revelations prophesied. When that time comes the churches of the world will fold to that system. Listen, antibrand people, I don't hate you. I don't really I I I've got no reason to to hate you or to hurt you or to harm you or to say things. I don't I'm not You're the people saying things against us. We're not fighting you. I'm not I'm not even speaking to believe the sign and all these people. I'm not I'm speaking to our people uh to those who are discouraged. Um so I don't have any agenda in this. I literally believe this with all my heart. Right? Look around you. Just young people in the message, those of you who've left the message, just do this for me. Go and Google, just go do Google searches and check where the mainline denominational churches, go and check their shares in the stock market. Just take the UK. Go look at the Anglican churches, the Church of England and and check all the majority churches how how much of shares they have in pounds or in US dollars, how much shares they have in the oil trade. I I I want to ask you what what has a business what business does the church of God have to do with the oil trade with gold shares with silver with other things in the global market? What what is a church of Christ doing with the beast please? Right. So this is the reason why I know uh why we follow what we follow, why everything he warned us about is coming to pass. Go check it out for yourself. Christ did not intend for the church to be connected with politics this way. So deeply entrenched in politics and in world trade, innocent Christians are not aware that their churches are taking their money and investing in oil and gold and silver and all of that. They don't know this. We believe that when the time comes, they will fold to the system and relinquish the original faith of Christ. When that time comes, who will deny the mark of the beast? Who will stand for the truth? It can only be the bride of Christ. Those who are married to the word of the Bible with all their hearts and strength and their souls. The Bible tells us that some will be translated, but some will go through great tribulation. and their robes will be washed in the blood of the lamb. We don't profess to know who these people are, who is the bride, who is the foolish virgin. We don't try to arrange people in groups. We just believe that God sent a prophet, a humble, flawed man to set us straight, to point us in the right direction, to give us the word by revelation, to be independent believers and have the strength to stand against the flow of popular belief and endure until the end. We believe there's going to come a time where churches will be closed, where our faith will be impeded by political governments. We know that time is coming. We believe the message is preparing us for that time, which is why we're not going to get stuck in some denomination which has its links to world trade and the global systems where they're going to fold and force upon us to be a part of the system. We're just never going to do that. We believe that. We believe it's coming and we will we will never succumb to that. So in closing, saints, I just want to say to to people who leave the message and you want to troll us online, you want to shame us, you want to speak against us, you want to call us false prophets, false teachers, false ministers, you go ahead, do that. I I want to tell you, look around you. You should be crying for the the abominations that that is in the cities. You should be like it was spoken of in the Bible to cry and sigh for the abominations. Look around you. Stop fighting us. Look at the Christian church. If you want to do something, go help them. Look at what's happening. Young people are suffering. They're they they cannot get married anymore. They're living together, fornicating. And then churches are doing nothing. Their they're addicted to pornography. Their their their very mechanism of life is being taken from them. Their their their jobs that they're being given, their belief is being threatened by the beast. Look at what's happening around you. Right? It's dismal. Stop fooling yourself. Right? Why are you wasting your time fighting with us? We are nobodyies. Look, who am I? I'm I don't even make a dent in the world. The world is not even interested in who I am. Why do you have to target me and then go and and investigate me and then write up a whole lot of stuff? What's the point? Nobody's going to listen to me. Most of the people in the message are not going to listen to me, right? It's it's really pointless. Go and help the people of the world. Go and reach out to them. Stop wasting your time fighting against William Brandaman, calling him a false prophet. Go and find the word of God. Go and help the people of the world. There is a genuine need for help out there. Cry for help out there. So saints, may the Lord bless you. May the Lord be with you. I, you know, I'm tired. I'm exhausted. I'm really um spent from, you know, trying to get help out to people. I'm getting emails and questions every single day. I can barely keep up, saints. I I really can't. Um we have friends in denominations who uh who want help. We have uh friends who are of other religions, Hindus, Muslims who want help. There are people reaching out out to us from everywhere. We're doing our best to help these people to be to be in a place where there are people who supposed to be on your side fighting you. It's just crazy. And then people who just want to go online and and shame you. It's I I don't understand. Where is the spirit of Christ? Where is the spirit of Christ in you that that you claim to have? Why is there so much vitriol and hate? And I I don't understand anymore. Where is this all coming from? Okay, we really need to change who we are. And and I don't care about all other people. I'm talking to you people in the message. Be better. Be better. We need to because our our our word needs to be more effective and needs to be with power so that it can be the same. They were astonished at his doctrine. The Lord bless you. God be with you. It's wonderful once again to have been speaking to you. The bride of Christ. We love you all very much. And all the saints in the world, all the Christians, all the people of the world, we love them all. They are brothers and sisters in Christ. They are brothers and sisters in in humanity. And uh we want to do everything we can to help. The Lord bless you.

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