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    William Branham taught that salvation (and healing) only lasts as long as your faith lasts.  He also believed that you could have the Holy Spirit and go to hell.


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    In his letter to the Ephesian church, Paul states:
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    =Losing Your Salvation=
    :'' In him you also, '''when you heard the word of truth''', the gospel of your salvation, '''and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit''', who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Eph 1:13–14.</ref>


    '''Q:''' Is it possible to lose your salvation?
    A person who believes in Christ are sealed with the Holy Spirit, and that sealing is until the day of their redemption:


    William Branham believed that salvation (and healing) only lasted as long as your faith lasted.
    :''And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Eph 4:30.</ref>


    MINISTRY EXPLAINED  MINNEAPOLIS.MN  50-0711
    It is impossible to lose your salvation in the same way it’s impossible to stop being your parents’ child. You are children by birth. Once you are born, you are born. Even if you are not acting like a well-behaved child, you are still a child because you are a child by birth. Similarly, you don’t hold on to God, God holds on to you. If a parent is holding a kid’s hand, even when that kid lets go, he is still connected to their parent because the parent is still holding on.<ref>Tony Evans, Tony Evans’ Book of Illustrations: Stories, Quotes, and Anecdotes from More than 30 Years of Preaching and Public Speaking (Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2009), 258.</ref>
    :''Somebody says, "How does Divine healing... Is it... Does it last all the time?" It lasts just as long as faith lasts. And salvation lasts the same way, just as long as faith lasts. When you feel that you're not saved any more, you're not saved. For it's by faith are you saved through grace. Is that right?


    THE INTER VEIL  STURGIS.MI _  56-0121
    Jesus said,
    :''Oh, brother. Some men so narrow-minded, you put a pencil between their eyes it'd blind them. That's right, so narrow- sighted... Sure. Salvation is--lasts as long as faith lasts. And Divine healing lasts as long as faith lasts.


    This is clearly false teaching.  It is impossible to lose your salvation in the same way it’s impossible to stop being your parents’ child. You are children by birth. Once you are born, you are born. Even if you are not acting like a well-behaved child, you are still a child because you are a child by birth.
    :''And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Jn 14:16–17.</ref>


    What would have to happen for you to lose your salvation, once you have been foreknown, predestined, called, justified, and glorified by God? For that to happen, God would have to throw the entire plan of salvation into reverse. Jesus would have to rise from his throne, go backward through the ascension (now a descension), enter the tomb again, be placed upon the cross, and then come down from it. For you to perish, the atonement would have had never to have happened. Only then could you be lost. But it has happened, according to the plan of God. And the fact that Jesus has been raised from the dead, brought to heaven, and been seated on the right hand of God the Father is proof that it has been accomplished. Your security is now as certain as the Lord’s enthronement, which means that it is as unshakable as Jesus himself. <ref>James Montgomery Boice, Romans, Volume 2: The Reign of Grace, 980 (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1991-)</ref>.
    Furthermore, the author of Hebrews states:


    =The Unconverted=
    ''for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” <ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Heb 13:5.</ref>
    '''Q:''' Are those who died without hearing the gospel of our Lord in hell or heaven?


    At the end of the day, every person who has not accepted Jesus Christ will stand before God in judgment, and he will decide their future.  Without the blood of Jesus Christ, there is no assurance of salvation - only uncertainty, perhaps a hope for mercy, and a fear of judgment. In contrast, the New Testament is a gospel of salvation, which is a gospel of assurance.   That is why we tell the world about Jesus Christ. The purpose of sharing the Gospel is not to condemn people to hell for denying the truth, but to give those that respond an inheritance with Jesus Christ.  It is not our position to judge.
    If you read it in the English translation, Hebrews 13:5 says, “I will never leave you. I will never forsake you.” I hate almost every English translation, because in the Greek there are two negatives in the first clause and three negatives in the second clause. What God is saying to those upon whom he has put his grace, those whose relationship with him is not based on the legs of a man or on the strength of a horse but on his sovereign grace and his action, “I will never, ever detach myself from you. I will never, ever, ever forsake you.” <ref>Timothy J. Keller, The Timothy Keller Sermon Archive (New York City: Redeemer Presbyterian Church, 2013).</ref>


    =Quotes of William Branham=


    =No Fruits of the Spirit=
    ''Somebody says, "How does '''Divine healing'''... Is it... '''Does it last''' all the time?" '''It lasts just as long as faith lasts. And salvation lasts the same way, just as long as faith lasts'''.  '''When you feel that you're not saved any more, you're not saved.''' For it's by faith are you saved through grace. Is that right?<ref>MINISTRY EXPLAINED  MINNEAPOLIS.MN  50-0711</ref>
    '''Q:'''I often get mad at God about my situation in life, and I end up cursing at God all the time and using his name in vain and I feel so guilty. Am I going to hell and and how can I control my anger?


    '''Answer 1:''' Are you going to hell?


    If you are having issues with anger and cursing, it is simply a sign that you do not have the Holy Spirit yet. Notice I said "yet"There is nothing wrong with seeking for the Holy Spirit - in fact there is everything right about realizing you are insufficient on your own and that the Holy Spirit needs to take controlYou are not the first person that needed the blood of Jesus Christ to cover their sins - all you have to do is read the Apostle Paul's testimony, and the testimony of John Newton (who wrote the song Amazing Grace).
    ''Oh, brother. Some men so narrow-minded, you put a pencil between their eyes it'd blind them. That's right, so narrow- sighted... Sure. '''Salvation is--lasts as long as faith lasts. And Divine healing lasts as long as faith lasts.'''<ref>THE INTER VEIL STURGIS.MI 56-0121 </ref>


    '''Answer 2:''' How can you control your anger, and your tongue. 


    Here are a few helpful points. You may also want to discuss this with a friend or a minister.  
    ''The choice of your conduct. You could… You can't mix it now. You're either for God or against God, and the outward expressions shows exactly what's on the inside. See? The cocklebur… Many of you think, "I got the baptism of the Holy Ghost, I'm going to Heaven." That don't mean one thing that you're going to Heaven. No, sir. '''You can have the baptism of the Holy Ghost every hour in your life, and still be lost and go to hell.''' The Bible says so. Uh-huh, that's exactly right.<ref>Leadership,  65-1207</ref>


    First - read the Bible, and you will find the answers to your problems in the Word of God.
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    #If your anger is because of despair or self-depression, read Ecclesiastes. 
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    #If your anger is because of circumstances, read Job. 
    #If your anger is because of your own failure, or the oppression of friends and enemies, read the Psalms. 
    #Reading the testimonies of the New Testament believers, including the suffering of Jesus and the dedication of Paul in the face of opposition.
     
    Second - Pray that the Lord will overcome for you. 
     
    Third - Try to manually replace your cursing with praise - do not just expect it to magically happen.  How can you do this?  For starters you could listen to music that is based on the scriptures.  King Saul used David's musical talent to keep the demon of anger out of his life, and you can do the same.
     
    Fourth - Live for others, and you will forget your own problems.
     
    Finally - Have patience.  In the Bible, God have Abraham a promise, but that promise took time to arrive. This may be your test of faith.
     
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    Most message followers consider William Branham to be an infallible interpreter of scripture. It is the widely held view of message followers that, if we want to know what a passage of the Bible actually means, William Branham is the best source on all counts.

    When encountering a passage in scripture that seems to be at odds with William Branham's interpretation, message preachers generally encourage message followers to simply put it "on the shelf" until God reveals to them why William Branham has the correct view.

    But there are a number of biblical issues that William Branham seems to have messed up badly:

    You are currently on the article that is in bold. William Branham taught that salvation (and healing) only lasts as long as your faith lasts. He also believed that you could have the Holy Spirit and go to hell.

    What the Bible teaches

    In his letter to the Ephesian church, Paul states:

     In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.[1]

    A person who believes in Christ are sealed with the Holy Spirit, and that sealing is until the day of their redemption:

    And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.[2]

    It is impossible to lose your salvation in the same way it’s impossible to stop being your parents’ child. You are children by birth. Once you are born, you are born. Even if you are not acting like a well-behaved child, you are still a child because you are a child by birth. Similarly, you don’t hold on to God, God holds on to you. If a parent is holding a kid’s hand, even when that kid lets go, he is still connected to their parent because the parent is still holding on.[3]

    Jesus said,

    And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.[4]

    Furthermore, the author of Hebrews states:

    for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” [5]

    If you read it in the English translation, Hebrews 13:5 says, “I will never leave you. I will never forsake you.” I hate almost every English translation, because in the Greek there are two negatives in the first clause and three negatives in the second clause. What God is saying to those upon whom he has put his grace, those whose relationship with him is not based on the legs of a man or on the strength of a horse but on his sovereign grace and his action, “I will never, ever detach myself from you. I will never, ever, ever forsake you.” [6]

    Quotes of William Branham

    Somebody says, "How does Divine healing... Is it... Does it last all the time?" It lasts just as long as faith lasts. And salvation lasts the same way, just as long as faith lasts. When you feel that you're not saved any more, you're not saved. For it's by faith are you saved through grace. Is that right?[7]


    Oh, brother. Some men so narrow-minded, you put a pencil between their eyes it'd blind them. That's right, so narrow- sighted... Sure. Salvation is--lasts as long as faith lasts. And Divine healing lasts as long as faith lasts.[8]


    The choice of your conduct. You could… You can't mix it now. You're either for God or against God, and the outward expressions shows exactly what's on the inside. See? The cocklebur… Many of you think, "I got the baptism of the Holy Ghost, I'm going to Heaven." That don't mean one thing that you're going to Heaven. No, sir. You can have the baptism of the Holy Ghost every hour in your life, and still be lost and go to hell. The Bible says so. Uh-huh, that's exactly right.[9]


    Footnotes

    1. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Eph 1:13–14.
    2. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Eph 4:30.
    3. Tony Evans, Tony Evans’ Book of Illustrations: Stories, Quotes, and Anecdotes from More than 30 Years of Preaching and Public Speaking (Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2009), 258.
    4. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Jn 14:16–17.
    5. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Heb 13:5.
    6. Timothy J. Keller, The Timothy Keller Sermon Archive (New York City: Redeemer Presbyterian Church, 2013).
    7. MINISTRY EXPLAINED MINNEAPOLIS.MN 50-0711
    8. THE INTER VEIL STURGIS.MI 56-0121
    9. Leadership, 65-1207


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