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	We believe it is clear from scripture that William Branham's lack of credibility is in direct contravention of the standards required of Christian leaders.		We believe it is clear from scripture that William Branham's lack of credibility is in direct contravention of the standards required of Christian leaders.

	=Examples of William Branham's ~~<strike>~~exaggerations~~</strike> lies~~=		=Examples of William Branham's exaggerations=

	The following are some examples of William Branham's wild exaggerations:		The following are some examples of William Branham's wild exaggerations:
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	*[[Question 34 (ABM) - The Cloud over Flagstaff\|The Cloud over Flagstaff]]		*[[Question 34 (ABM) - The Cloud over Flagstaff\|The Cloud over Flagstaff]]
	*[[Question 35 (ABM) - The Prophet and the Eagle\|The Prophet and the Eagle]]		*[[Question 35 (ABM) - The Prophet and the Eagle\|The Prophet and the Eagle]]


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	But just how bad was he went it came to exaggerating things?		But just how bad was he went it came to exaggerating things?

	=What is the test for Christian leaders?=		=Is there a higher standard under the new covenant?=

			The excuse we hear from message followers regarding William Branham's lack of credibility is as follows:

			:''God used an Abraham (he lied), He used a Moses (he rebelled), a Jonah (he disobeyed), a Samson (he sinned), a David (he murdered). He also used a Joshua, and a Joseph. And those with severe blemishes far outnumber those whose histories seem to be perfect. ALL WERE, AND ARE HIS. None dare deny that. He used them by and through the Holy Spirit that He put within them. So why should we be surprised that William Branham also has faults?

			But the examples are always references to people under the old covenant, never under the new. Is there a higher test under the new covenant or should we simply excuse William Branham's exaggerations and lies?

			==What is the test for Christian leaders?==

	Christians are not to be deceitful:		Christians are not to be deceitful:
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	:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and '''the spirit of deceit'''.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>		:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and '''the spirit of deceit'''.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>

			We believe it is clear from scripture that William Branham's lack of credibility is in direct contravention of the standards required of Christian leaders.

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	Christians are not to be ~~decietful~~:		Christians are not to be deceitful:

	:''Therefore, '''rid yourselves of''' all malice and '''all deceit''', hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), ~~1 Pe 2:1–2~~.</ref>		1 Peter 2:1–2
			:''Therefore, '''rid yourselves of''' all malice and '''all deceit''', hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), c.</ref>

			1 Peter 3:10
	:''“Whoever desires to love life and see good days, '''let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit'''...<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), 1 Pe 3:10.</ref>		:''“Whoever desires to love life and see good days, '''let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit'''...<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), 1 Pe 3:10.</ref>

	~~We understand that the~~ standard for those in leadership in the church is higher than for others:		The standard for those in leadership in the church is higher than for others:

			James 3:1
	:''Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Jas 3:1.</ref>		:''Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Jas 3:1.</ref>

			1 Timothy 3:2
	:''Now the overseer is to be '''above reproach'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), 1 Ti 3:2</ref>		:''Now the overseer is to be '''above reproach'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), 1 Ti 3:2</ref>

			Titus 1:6
	:''An elder must be '''blameless'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Tt 1:6</ref>		:''An elder must be '''blameless'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Tt 1:6</ref>

	We are warned about those that do not speak honestly:		We are warned about those that do not speak honestly:

			Colossians 2:8
	:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>		:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>

			1 John 4:6
	:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and '''the spirit of deceit'''.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>		:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and '''the spirit of deceit'''.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>

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	William Branham only indicated twice that he was prone to exaggeration:		William Branham only indicated twice that he was prone to exaggeration:

	25 So, immediately I went to Kingston. And they—they knowed Thursday afternoon that I’d be there Friday. That’s all the advertisement we had. I’m not very good at making…?…or estimating crowds, because I usually exaggerate on it. But the first night, I’d say we had about twelve, oh, about twelve hundred people, out, because it was just known one day. And the next day they started runners running four miles, on relay, up the mountains. One runner would run for four hours, and then let some other runner go on up the mountain. And the second night there was about five thousand. And the third night it was estimated around fifteen thousand, maybe twenty. And there were thousands times thousands came to the Lord.</ref>William Branham, 59-0301M - Strait Is The Gate, para. 25</ref>		:''So, immediately I went to Kingston. And they—they knowed Thursday afternoon that I’d be there Friday. That’s all the advertisement we had. I’m not very good at making…?…or estimating crowds, because I usually exaggerate on it. But the first night, I’d say we had about twelve, oh, about twelve hundred people, out, because it was just known one day. And the next day they started runners running four miles, on relay, up the mountains. One runner would run for four hours, and then let some other runner go on up the mountain. And the second night there was about five thousand. And the third night it was estimated around fifteen thousand, maybe twenty. And there were thousands times thousands came to the Lord.</ref>William Branham, 59-0301M - Strait Is The Gate, para. 25</ref>

	''In the newspaper it said that all the birds had flew away from their coves… In India, they don’t have nice fences like you have here in the States, woven wire, and so forth, and fine picket fences. They pick up the stones mostly, and lay the stones together. There’s four hundred and seventy million people in India. And honest (I know I’m exaggerating), but I’d guess four hundred million beggars. There’s just… They know nothing but beg. They got plenty of natural resources, but not the mentality to develop it. All they know is beg and religion.<ref>William Branham, 61-0119E - Queen Of Sheba, para. 8</ref>		:''In the newspaper it said that all the birds had flew away from their coves… In India, they don’t have nice fences like you have here in the States, woven wire, and so forth, and fine picket fences. They pick up the stones mostly, and lay the stones together. There’s four hundred and seventy million people in India. And honest (I know I’m exaggerating), but I’d guess four hundred million beggars. There’s just… They know nothing but beg. They got plenty of natural resources, but not the mentality to develop it. All they know is beg and religion.<ref>William Branham, 61-0119E - Queen Of Sheba, para. 8</ref>

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	==Other Examples of William Branham's <strike>exaggerations</strike> lies==		==Other Examples of William Branham's <strike>exaggerations</strike> lies==

	*The story of [[Congressman Upshaw]]
	*The [[Prophecy of the Cloud]]		*The [[Prophecy of the Cloud]]

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	''In the newspaper it said that all the birds had flew away from their coves… In India, they don’t have nice fences like you have here in the States, woven wire, and so forth, and fine picket fences. They pick up the stones mostly, and lay the stones together. There’s four hundred and seventy million people in India. And honest (I know I’m exaggerating), but I’d guess four hundred million beggars. There’s just… They know nothing but beg. They got plenty of natural resources, but not the mentality to develop it. All they know is beg and religion.<ref>William Branham, 61-0119E - Queen Of Sheba, para. 8</ref>

	~~For specific examples of William Branham's exaggeration, see the following articles:~~

	*[[Fulfillment of Prayer for Great Men of the World]]		*[[Fulfillment of Prayer for Great Men of the World]]
	*[[The Vision of the Meetings in South Africa]]		*[[The Vision of the Meetings in South Africa]]
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	*[[Question 35 (ABM) - The Prophet and the Eagle\|The Prophet and the Eagle]]		*[[Question 35 (ABM) - The Prophet and the Eagle\|The Prophet and the Eagle]]


			=Quotes of William Branham=

			William Branham only indicated twice that he was prone to exaggeration:

			25 So, immediately I went to Kingston. And they—they knowed Thursday afternoon that I’d be there Friday. That’s all the advertisement we had. I’m not very good at making…?…or estimating crowds, because I usually exaggerate on it. But the first night, I’d say we had about twelve, oh, about twelve hundred people, out, because it was just known one day. And the next day they started runners running four miles, on relay, up the mountains. One runner would run for four hours, and then let some other runner go on up the mountain. And the second night there was about five thousand. And the third night it was estimated around fifteen thousand, maybe twenty. And there were thousands times thousands came to the Lord.</ref>William Branham, 59-0301M - Strait Is The Gate, para. 25</ref>

			''In the newspaper it said that all the birds had flew away from their coves… In India, they don’t have nice fences like you have here in the States, woven wire, and so forth, and fine picket fences. They pick up the stones mostly, and lay the stones together. There’s four hundred and seventy million people in India. And honest (I know I’m exaggerating), but I’d guess four hundred million beggars. There’s just… They know nothing but beg. They got plenty of natural resources, but not the mentality to develop it. All they know is beg and religion.<ref>William Branham, 61-0119E - Queen Of Sheba, para. 8</ref>

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	The question must be asked - "At what time does an exaggeration become a lie?" In this case, it is clear to us that William Branham was lying, not only about this, but about a great many other things that William Branham used as "vindication" for his prophetic ministry.		The question must be asked - "At what time does an exaggeration become a lie?" In this case, it is clear to us that William Branham was lying, not only about this, but about a great many other things that William Branham used as "vindication" for his prophetic ministry.

			==Other Examples of William Branham's <strike>exaggerations</strike> lies==

			*The story of [[Congressman Upshaw]]
			*The [[Prophecy of the Cloud]]

	=Quotes of William Branham=		=Quotes of William Branham=

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	We understand that the standard for those in leadership in the church is higher than for others:		We understand that the standard for those in leadership in the church is higher than for others:

	:''~~Now the overseer is to~~ be ~~above reproach..~~.<ref>The ~~New International~~ Version (~~Grand Rapids~~, MI: ~~Zondervan~~, ~~2011~~), ~~1 Ti~~ 3:2</ref>		:''Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Jas 3:1.</ref>

	:''An elder must be blameless...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Tt 1:6</ref>		:''Now the overseer is to be '''above reproach'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), 1 Ti 3:2</ref>

			:''An elder must be '''blameless'''...<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Tt 1:6</ref>

	We are warned about those that do not speak honestly:		We are warned about those that do not speak honestly:
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	:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>		:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>

	:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>		:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and '''the spirit of deceit'''.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>

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	:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>		:''See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and '''empty deceit''', according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.''<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Bibles, 2016), Col 2:8.</ref>

	:''~~the world’s perspective and the world listens to them. 4:6 We~~ are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:~~5–6~~.</ref>		:''We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit.<ref>Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 1 Jn 4:6.</ref>

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	But just how bad was he went it came to exaggerating things?		But just how bad was he went it came to exaggerating things?

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			=Examples of William Branham's <strike>exaggerations</strike> lies=

			The following are some examples of William Branham's wild exaggerations:

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	Notice that on every telling, the number became larger. In the short space of less than 4 years, the numbers change from 150 to 500 (333% increase). Is that the formula that should be used to correct all his numbers?<ref>This example of William Branham's exaggerations was provided by [[Research Sources for William Branham and His Message#Books\|Peter M. Duyzer, author of the book, Legend of the Fall]]</ref>		Notice that on every telling, the number became larger. In the short space of less than 4 years, the numbers change from 150 to 500 (333% increase). Is that the formula that should be used to correct all his numbers?<ref>This example of William Branham's exaggerations was provided by [[Research Sources for William Branham and His Message#Books\|Peter M. Duyzer, author of the book, Legend of the Fall]]</ref>

	=1933 on the Ohio River=		==1933 on the Ohio River==

	In 1933, William Branham tells of how he baptized a number of converts in the Ohio River after he had held a tent meeting. The Jeffersonville Evening News, June 2, 1933 states that, “Fourteen people were converted in a tent meeting conducted at Eighth and Pratt Streets by the Rev. William Branham.” Remember, William Branham stated that when he was at Mishawaka in September of 1934, he signed his name as “Baptist” as well as “Evangelist.” He said he had no church (building) but he went around holding tent meetings (mostly Pentecostal churches.)		In 1933, William Branham tells of how he baptized a number of converts in the Ohio River after he had held a tent meeting. The Jeffersonville Evening News, June 2, 1933 states that, “Fourteen people were converted in a tent meeting conducted at Eighth and Pratt Streets by the Rev. William Branham.” Remember, William Branham stated that when he was at Mishawaka in September of 1934, he signed his name as “Baptist” as well as “Evangelist.” He said he had no church (building) but he went around holding tent meetings (mostly Pentecostal churches.)