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 William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below).  But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.
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 #The primary dispute was between the Trinitarians and the Unitarians; and
 #Everyone baptized prior to the First Council of Nicaea was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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	William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below). But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.		William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below). But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.

	William Branham also taught ~~that~~ the doctrine of the Trinity started at the Nicene Council ~~and that the~~ primary dispute was between the Trinitarians and the Unitarians~~. But this is also historically incorrect~~.		William Branham also taught the following which are '''historically incorrect''':

			#The doctrine of the Trinity started at the Nicene Council;
			#The primary dispute was between the Trinitarians and the Unitarians; and
			#Everyone baptized prior to the First Council of Nicaea was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

	==Quotes of William Branham==		==Quotes of William Branham==

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	''And '''in the Nicene Council''', to do this, in order to do this, '''they had to take a trinity''', because in the Roman world they had many gods. They prayed to their dead ancestors.<ref>William Branham, 60-1204M - The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, para. 171, 175</ref>		''And '''in the Nicene Council''', to do this, in order to do this, '''they had to take a trinity''', because in the Roman world they had many gods. They prayed to their dead ancestors.<ref>William Branham, 60-1204M - The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, para. 171, 175</ref>

	''And no one, no Protestant, no early church was ever believed in three gods. '''It was a great issue at the Nicene Council''', and both of them went on limbs; out this way, as to say. The trinitarian, the triune people that believed in the trinity, which finally formed in '''the Catholic church, they went to complete trinity''', making God “three” people. And '''there was one that believed that God was “one,” and they went on the other side to be a unitarian.''' Both of them are wrong. ~~God can’t…~~<ref>William Branham, 60-1205 - The Ephesian Church Age, para. 32</ref>		''And no one, no Protestant, no early church was ever believed in three gods. '''It was a great issue at the Nicene Council''', and both of them went on limbs; out this way, as to say. The trinitarian, the triune people that believed in the trinity, which finally formed in '''the Catholic church, they went to complete trinity''', making God “three” people. And '''there was one that believed that God was “one,” and they went on the other side to be a unitarian.''' Both of them are wrong.<ref>William Branham, 60-1205 - The Ephesian Church Age, para. 32</ref>

			'''If it would’ve been wrong, why did God recognize it then, and command all the rest of them, down through the Bible, to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ? And every person in the Bible was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. And '''every person up to the organization of Catholic church, was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. At the Nicene Council, they formed this baptism of Father, Son, Holy Ghost''', making a triune God out of one true God, to bring in their—their trinity.<ref>William Branham, 61-0120 - The Water Baptism, para. 97</ref>

	''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]		''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]

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	''I feel that spirit resenting That, you see. I’m not speaking of myself, brother. I’m speaking of the Angel of the Lord that’s in the camp. That’s exactly right.<ref>William Branham, 65-0725M - The Anointed Ones At The End Time, para. 240-242</ref>		''I feel that spirit resenting That, you see. I’m not speaking of myself, brother. I’m speaking of the Angel of the Lord that’s in the camp. That’s exactly right.<ref>William Branham, 65-0725M - The Anointed Ones At The End Time, para. 240-242</ref>




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	''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]		''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]

	:''Notice, they look back to the Nicaea Council where the trinity doctrine was born at, not in the Bible. There’s no such a thing. They look back to the Nicaea Council at '''Nicaea, Rome,''' where the trinity was born at. Notice where they come from. Notice. And the trinity of frogs came out of an old trinity, give birth to a new trinity, their mother. What’d it come out of? A trinity, “the dragon,” see, “the beast,” and “the false prophet.” A trinity, new. For when were these frogs come out? When did it? Notice, they was there all the time, but it wasn’t manifested until between the Sixth and Seventh Vial, just before the Seals opened (Hmm?) to reveal it. “For in the Message of the seventh angel, the mysteries of God would be known,” all these trinitarian things, and false baptisms, and everything was to be made manifest. God help us to see what’s Truth! And not think it’s somebody trying to say something to…		''Notice, they look back to the Nicaea Council where the trinity doctrine was born at, not in the Bible. There’s no such a thing. They look back to the Nicaea Council at '''Nicaea, Rome,''' where the trinity was born at. Notice where they come from. Notice. And the trinity of frogs came out of an old trinity, give birth to a new trinity, their mother. What’d it come out of? A trinity, “the dragon,” see, “the beast,” and “the false prophet.” A trinity, new. For when were these frogs come out? When did it? Notice, they was there all the time, but it wasn’t manifested until between the Sixth and Seventh Vial, just before the Seals opened (Hmm?) to reveal it. “For in the Message of the seventh angel, the mysteries of God would be known,” all these trinitarian things, and false baptisms, and everything was to be made manifest. God help us to see what’s Truth! And not think it’s somebody trying to say something to…

	''I feel that spirit resenting That, you see. I’m not speaking of myself, brother. I’m speaking of the Angel of the Lord that’s in the camp. That’s exactly right.<ref>William Branham, 65-0725M - The Anointed Ones At The End Time, para. 240-242</ref>		''I feel that spirit resenting That, you see. I’m not speaking of myself, brother. I’m speaking of the Angel of the Lord that’s in the camp. That’s exactly right.<ref>William Branham, 65-0725M - The Anointed Ones At The End Time, para. 240-242</ref>

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	William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below). But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.		William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below). But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.

	William Branham also taught that the doctrine of the Trinity started at the Nicene Council.		William Branham also taught that the doctrine of the Trinity started at the Nicene Council and that the primary dispute was between the Trinitarians and the Unitarians. But this is also historically incorrect.







	==Quotes of William Branham==		==Quotes of William Branham==

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	''Now, of course, we people today, '''we believe that there’s three, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is the three persons of the one true God.''' It’s three offices, not three Gods. But that same… Listen now, we think that was ridiculous in the Catholic church, but we brought it right down here at Pentecost and tore yourselves to pieces with it—set up another organization, started something else.<ref>William Branham, 57-0309B - I Will Restore, para. 31-32</ref>		''Now, of course, we people today, '''we believe that there’s three, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is the three persons of the one true God.''' It’s three offices, not three Gods. But that same… Listen now, we think that was ridiculous in the Catholic church, but we brought it right down here at Pentecost and tore yourselves to pieces with it—set up another organization, started something else.<ref>William Branham, 57-0309B - I Will Restore, para. 31-32</ref>

			''Now, at the '''Nicene Council, they come to two great decisions'''. On the… Oh, many of them in that day of the early church fathers, they had two extreme views. '''One of them was a triune God, a trinitarian. And the other one was a—a one God. And they both come into existence and went out on two straight limbs''', out like that. The triunity became a place of a three-god person. The oneness became a unitarian, just as far wrong as the other one was. So they both went on limbs, but right in Here reveals the Truth.

			''And '''in the Nicene Council''', to do this, in order to do this, '''they had to take a trinity''', because in the Roman world they had many gods. They prayed to their dead ancestors.<ref>William Branham, 60-1204M - The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, para. 171, 175</ref>

			''And no one, no Protestant, no early church was ever believed in three gods. '''It was a great issue at the Nicene Council''', and both of them went on limbs; out this way, as to say. The trinitarian, the triune people that believed in the trinity, which finally formed in '''the Catholic church, they went to complete trinity''', making God “three” people. And '''there was one that believed that God was “one,” and they went on the other side to be a unitarian.''' Both of them are wrong. God can’t…<ref>William Branham, 60-1205 - The Ephesian Church Age, para. 32</ref>

	''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]		''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]

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==What William Branham got wrong about the Nicene Council==

William Branham referred dozens of times to the Nicene Council being held at "Nicaea, Rome" (see quotes below). But the city of Nicaea, where the council was held, was nowhere near Rome. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day Iznik in Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.

William Branham also taught that the doctrine of the Trinity started at the Nicene Council.

==Quotes of William Branham==

''But they had the worship of one true God. In that little faction, they set up in the program (which many of you historians know), of making the trinity three different Gods. They had one God, the Father, with a long beard. I seen the pictures right at the Vatican. They had another one, God, the Son, with a younger man and a little bird flying around like a dove, calling the Holy Ghost. Now, they lost sight there, of the true picture of the one true God. God is not three Gods. God is one God. God has three offices, the trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, but it isn’t three different Gods. If it is, we’re pagan. But that never started in the early church; they knowed different from that. '''It started in the middle age''', when the unity of brethren was broke up, and the love.

''Now, of course, we people today, '''we believe that there’s three, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is the three persons of the one true God.''' It’s three offices, not three Gods. But that same… Listen now, we think that was ridiculous in the Catholic church, but we brought it right down here at Pentecost and tore yourselves to pieces with it—set up another organization, started something else.<ref>William Branham, 57-0309B - I Will Restore, para. 31-32</ref>

''A trinity of frogs! A frog is an animal that always looks backward. He never looks where he’s going; he looks where he’s come from. See? Don’t you see? Where was trinitarianism born at? Remember, “three unclean spirits,” individual spirits. Are you getting it? [Congregation says, “Amen.”—Ed.]

:''Notice, they look back to the Nicaea Council where the trinity doctrine was born at, not in the Bible. There’s no such a thing. They look back to the Nicaea Council at '''Nicaea, Rome,''' where the trinity was born at. Notice where they come from. Notice. And the trinity of frogs came out of an old trinity, give birth to a new trinity, their mother. What’d it come out of? A trinity, “the dragon,” see, “the beast,” and “the false prophet.” A trinity, new. For when were these frogs come out? When did it? Notice, they was there all the time, but it wasn’t manifested until between the Sixth and Seventh Vial, just before the Seals opened (Hmm?) to reveal it. “For in the Message of the seventh angel, the mysteries of God would be known,” all these trinitarian things, and false baptisms, and everything was to be made manifest. God help us to see what’s Truth! And not think it’s somebody trying to say something to…

''I feel that spirit resenting That, you see. I’m not speaking of myself, brother. I’m speaking of the Angel of the Lord that’s in the camp. That’s exactly right.<ref>William Branham, 65-0725M - The Anointed Ones At The End Time, para. 240-242</ref>

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