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	[[Image:April 1963 Science Magazine page 1.png\|thumb\|250px\|right]]		[[Image:April 1963 Science Magazine page 1.png\|thumb\|250px\|right\|Science Magazine April 1963 page 292]]
	[[Image:63 04 Science Vol 140 Page 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|right]]		[[Image:63 04 Science Vol 140 Page 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|right\|Science Magazine April 1963 page 293]]
	[[Image:63 04 Science Vol 140 Page 3.png\|thumb\|250px\|right]]		[[Image:63 04 Science Vol 140 Page 3.png\|thumb\|250px\|right\|Science Magazine April 1963 page 294]]
	Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ''Science Magazine'', and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.		Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ''Science Magazine'', and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.

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	Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ''Science Magazine'', and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.		Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ''Science Magazine'', and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.

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	Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ~~the Life~~ Magazine ~~(and some other scientific reports)~~, and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.		Questions have also been raised about a second cloud accompanying the cloud. The second cloud is noted in ''Science Magazine'', and appears in a smaller photograph off to the north-west.

	This second cloud presents a serious problem for those arguing for a supernatural explanation: were there 2 sets of angels? Why didn't William Branham mention the second cloud if he was standing right underneath it?		This second cloud presents a serious problem for those arguing for a supernatural explanation: were there 2 sets of angels? Why didn't William Branham mention the second cloud if he was standing right underneath it?

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	===Important documents relating to the cloud===		===Important documents relating to the cloud===

	#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/63+02+28+Cloud+Launch+Record.jpg Declassified 1963 02 28 launch record]		#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/63+02+28+Cloud+Launch+Record.jpg Declassified 1963 02 28 Thor launch record]
			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/63+02+28+Declassified+AF+doc+re+Pitch+Pine.pdf Declassified 1963 02 28 Pitch Pine launch record]
	#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/80+06+05+U+of+A+Cloud+Letter+.jpg University of Arizona letter of June 5, 1980]		#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/80+06+05+U+of+A+Cloud+Letter+.jpg University of Arizona letter of June 5, 1980]
	#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+1.jpg 1995 01 26 Air Force letter - page 1] and [https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+2.jpg page 2]		#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+1.jpg 1995 01 26 Air Force letter - page 1] and [https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+2.jpg page 2]
	#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+08+23+Meinel+letter+re+cloud.jpg 1996 08 23 letter from Mrs. Meinel]		#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+08+23+Meinel+letter+re+cloud.jpg 1996 08 23 letter from Mrs. Meinel]
	#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+09+10+MacDonald.jpg 1996 09 10 letter from Mrs. MacDonald]		#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+09+10+MacDonald.jpg 1996 09 10 letter from Mrs. MacDonald]



	===Why was the cloud not seen before sunset?===		===Why was the cloud not seen before sunset?===

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	:'''Abstract''' - Measurement of the filamentary noctilucent cloud of 2 November 1963 yields a height of 56 km. Study of the motion and orientation of the cloud confirms the hypothesis that these unusual clouds appearing in the southwestern states are produced by the launching of rocket vehicles from the Pacific Missile Range.<ref>[http://www.sciencemag.org/content/143/3601/38.abstract Science Magazine, January 1964: Vol. 143, no. 3601, pp. 38-39, DOI:0.1126/science.143.3601.38, Low-Latitude Noctilucent Cloud of 2 November 1963, Aden B. Meinel, Carolyn P. Meinel]</ref>		:'''Abstract''' - Measurement of the filamentary noctilucent cloud of 2 November 1963 yields a height of 56 km. Study of the motion and orientation of the cloud confirms the hypothesis that these unusual clouds appearing in the southwestern states are produced by the launching of rocket vehicles from the Pacific Missile Range.<ref>[http://www.sciencemag.org/content/143/3601/38.abstract Science Magazine, January 1964: Vol. 143, no. 3601, pp. 38-39, DOI:0.1126/science.143.3601.38, Low-Latitude Noctilucent Cloud of 2 November 1963, Aden B. Meinel, Carolyn P. Meinel]</ref>

			===Important documents relating to the cloud===

			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/63+02+28+Cloud+Launch+Record.jpg Declassified 1963 02 28 launch record]
			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/80+06+05+U+of+A+Cloud+Letter+.jpg University of Arizona letter of June 5, 1980]
			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+1.jpg 1995 01 26 Air Force letter - page 1] and [https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/95+01+26+AF+re+cloud+2.jpg page 2]
			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+08+23+Meinel+letter+re+cloud.jpg 1996 08 23 letter from Mrs. Meinel]
			#[https://btspublicdocs.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/96+09+10+MacDonald.jpg 1996 09 10 letter from Mrs. MacDonald]



	===Why was the cloud not seen before sunset?===		===Why was the cloud not seen before sunset?===

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	#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.		#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.
	#When the launch records were later declassified, the United States Air Force released a memo explaining that the cloud was the result of a military operation.<ref>Jackson, Jeff G., 30th Space Wing History, Department of the Air Force, January 26, 1995, Vandenburg AFB, California</ref>		#When the launch records were later declassified, the United States Air Force released a memo explaining that the cloud was the result of a military operation.<ref>Jackson, Jeff G., 30th Space Wing History, Department of the Air Force, January 26, 1995, Vandenburg AFB, California</ref>
			#Declassified air force documents show that at

	Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>		Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>

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	<div style="border-bottom:2px #B87333 solid; text-align:lrft; padding:1px; margin:1px;"><font color='#800000' size='+1'>'''The Cloud (Part 2) - What Caused The Cloud?'''.</font> </div>		<div style="border-bottom:2px #B87333 solid; text-align:lrft; padding:1px; margin:1px;"><font color='#800000' size='+1'>'''The Cloud (Part 2) - What Caused The Cloud?'''.</font> </div>
	<youtube>http://youtu.be/ne_eJ9osvnc</youtube>		<youtube>http://youtu.be/ne_eJ9osvnc</youtube>
	[[Image:Cloud-Large.jpg\|250px\|right\|thumb\|Page 112 of the May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]		[[Image:Cloud-Large.jpg\|250px\|right\|thumb\|Page 112 of the May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]
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	At around sunset on February 28, 1963, a cloud (referred to in this article as the "Cloud") appeared in the vicinity of Flagstaff, AZ and remained sunlit for 28 minutes after sunset. It was highlighted in the [[Life Magazine May1963 (Page 112)\|May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]. In addition to Life Magazine, various articles written appeared in Science Magazine (April 19, 1963), an independent report issued May 31, 1963], and in Weatherwise Magazine (June 1963)].		At around sunset on February 28, 1963, a cloud (referred to in this article as the "Cloud") appeared in the vicinity of Flagstaff, AZ and remained sunlit for 28 minutes after sunset. It was highlighted in the [[Life Magazine May1963 (Page 112)\|May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]. In addition to Life Magazine, various articles written appeared in Science Magazine (April 19, 1963), an independent report issued May 31, 1963], and in Weatherwise Magazine (June 1963)].

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	However, our examination of the cloud is not over. We will next look at whether the cloud could be in any way related to the events which occurred at Rattlesnake Mesa.		However, our examination of the cloud is not over. We will next look at whether the cloud could be in any way related to the events which occurred at Rattlesnake Mesa.

			=Evidence from the Branham Family=
			{{Cloud Only Believe}}

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	At around sunset on February 28, 1963, a cloud (referred to in this article as the "Cloud") appeared in the vicinity of Flagstaff, AZ and remained sunlit for 28 minutes after sunset. It was highlighted in the [[Life Magazine May1963 (Page 112)\|May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]. In addition to Life Magazine, various articles written appeared in ~~[http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Science%20Magazine%20Cloud%20Article%20April%201963.pdf~~ Science Magazine (April 19, 1963)], ~~[http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf~~ an independent report issued May 31, 1963], and in ~~[http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Weather%20Wise%20Magazine%20Cloud%20Article%20June%201963.pdf~~ Weatherwise Magazine (June 1963)].		At around sunset on February 28, 1963, a cloud (referred to in this article as the "Cloud") appeared in the vicinity of Flagstaff, AZ and remained sunlit for 28 minutes after sunset. It was highlighted in the [[Life Magazine May1963 (Page 112)\|May 1963 edition of Life Magazine]]. In addition to Life Magazine, various articles written appeared in Science Magazine (April 19, 1963), an independent report issued May 31, 1963], and in Weatherwise Magazine (June 1963)].

	The cloud was very unusual and puzzled scientists at the time, who could not find a conclusive explanation for the cloud. The height of the cloud was initially estimated by James E. McDonald from the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona, Tucson, as being approximately 35 kilometers but was later revised by him to be at approximately 43 kilometers (141,000 feet).		The cloud was very unusual and puzzled scientists at the time, who could not find a conclusive explanation for the cloud. The height of the cloud was initially estimated by James E. McDonald from the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona, Tucson, as being approximately 35 kilometers but was later revised by him to be at approximately 43 kilometers (141,000 feet).

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	#No one recorded the wind speed on the day of the Thor explosion Vandenburg but the wind speed recorded by scientists at other times, according to Dr. Macdonald, "tantalizingly close" to the required wind speed.		#No one recorded the wind speed on the day of the Thor explosion Vandenburg but the wind speed recorded by scientists at other times, according to Dr. Macdonald, "tantalizingly close" to the required wind speed.
	#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.		#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.
	#When the launch records were later declassified, the United States Air Force released a memo explaining that the cloud was the result of a military operation.<ref>~~{{citation\|title=~~30th Space Wing History~~\|publisher=~~Department of the Air Force~~\|date=~~January 26, 1995~~\|location=~~Vandenburg AFB, California~~\|author=Jackson, Jeff G.\|pages=1–2}}~~</ref>		#When the launch records were later declassified, the United States Air Force released a memo explaining that the cloud was the result of a military operation.<ref>Jackson, Jeff G., 30th Space Wing History, Department of the Air Force, January 26, 1995, Vandenburg AFB, California</ref>

	Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>		Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>

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	#No one recorded the wind speed on the day of the Thor explosion Vandenburg but the wind speed recorded by scientists at other times, according to Dr. Macdonald, "tantalizingly close" to the required wind speed.		#No one recorded the wind speed on the day of the Thor explosion Vandenburg but the wind speed recorded by scientists at other times, according to Dr. Macdonald, "tantalizingly close" to the required wind speed.
	#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.		#Windspeeds can vary with distance and therefore, the rocket explanation is the most plausible.
			#When the launch records were later declassified, the United States Air Force released a memo explaining that the cloud was the result of a military operation.<ref>{{citation\|title=30th Space Wing History\|publisher=Department of the Air Force\|date=January 26, 1995\|location=Vandenburg AFB, California\|author=Jackson, Jeff G.\|pages=1–2}}</ref>

	Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>		Dr. McDonald reports that the cloud appeared in the Mesosphere, but that clouds cannot form at this height. <ref> http://www.spokenwordchurch.com/themessageresourcelibrary/Articles/Cloud%20Article%20-%20Dr%20McDonalds%20Cloud%20Investigation%20Supplement%201963.pdf </ref> However, '''Dr. McDonald has subsequently been proven wrong''' - visible exhaust clouds can reach into the Mesosphere. <ref>http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/rktr1j.htm </ref> More recently, NASA has been testing wind currents at high altitudes by creating extremely high clouds with chemicals. Some of these artificial clouds appear in shapes remarkably similar to the February 28, 1963 photograph published in Life Magazine and exist without an “exhaust trail” back to the launch site. <ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/pictures/120327-nasa-rockets-clouds-wallops-jet-stream-edge-space-science/#/nasa-rocket-launch-strange-clouds-blue_50490_600x450.jpg</ref>