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	On this issue, you are deceived. Liberty from THE LAW is not a liberty to an occasion of the flesh. And, to equate the quotes you presented from William Branham as saying he was preaching "perfection" through dress is simply a fabrication. He never preached perfection was though what anyone wore or did not wear. What you do is obfuscate one issue with another and attribute two lies to William Branham when in fact the very basis of for your reasoning on the first complaint is totally a deception to begin with.		On this issue, you are deceived. Liberty from THE LAW is not a liberty to an occasion of the flesh. And, to equate the quotes you presented from William Branham as saying he was preaching "perfection" through dress is simply a fabrication. He never preached perfection was though what anyone wore or did not wear. What you do is obfuscate one issue with another and attribute two lies to William Branham when in fact the very basis of for your reasoning on the first complaint is totally a deception to begin with.

	~~[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]~~
	'''Here is our response:'''		'''Here is our response:'''
			[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|right\|John Wesley with long hair]]
	If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.		If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.

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	:''But if anyone wants to argue about this, we do not have any custom like this, nor do any of God’s churches.'' (ISV)		:''But if anyone wants to argue about this, we do not have any custom like this, nor do any of God’s churches.'' (ISV)

	So while short hair may be preferred on a man, it did not seem Paul was overly dogmatic on the issue and certainly does not give it the force of law.		So while short hair may be preferred on a man, it did not seem Paul was overly dogmatic on the issue and certainly does not give it the force of law. In other words, while long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.

	So while long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, ~~but~~ it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.

	Finally, are you misinterpreting what Paul said about grace? Was it Paul's grace that he was preaching or was it the grace of Jesus Christ?		Finally, are you misinterpreting what Paul said about grace? Was it Paul's grace that he was preaching or was it the grace of Jesus Christ?
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	You cannot take one scripture and base a teaching on it. Look at what Paul said elsewhere:		You cannot take one scripture and base a teaching on it. Look at what Paul said elsewhere:

	:''I thank my God always on your behalf, for the '''grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ'''.'' (1 Co 1:4)		*''I thank my God always on your behalf, for the '''grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ'''.'' (1 Co 1:4)
			*''I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into '''the grace of Christ''' unto another gospel.'' (Ga 1:6)
	:''I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into '''the grace of Christ''' unto another gospel.'' (Ga 1:6)		*''That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.'' (Eph 2:7)

	:''That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.'' (Eph 2:7)

	Paul did not say "my grace", he pointed to "his grace", the grace of Christ Jesus.		Paul did not say "my grace", he pointed to "his grace", the grace of Christ Jesus.

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	[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]		[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]
	'''Here is our ~~rsponse~~:'''		'''Here is our response:'''

	If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.		If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.
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	So while long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.		So while long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.

			Finally, are you misinterpreting what Paul said about grace? Was it Paul's grace that he was preaching or was it the grace of Jesus Christ?

			You cannot take one scripture and base a teaching on it. Look at what Paul said elsewhere:

			:''I thank my God always on your behalf, for the '''grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ'''.'' (1 Co 1:4)

			:''I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into '''the grace of Christ''' unto another gospel.'' (Ga 1:6)

			:''That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.'' (Eph 2:7)

			Paul did not say "my grace", he pointed to "his grace", the grace of Christ Jesus.

	==Related Articles==		==Related Articles==

	[[Mixing Law and Grace]]		[[Mixing Law and Grace]]

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	On this issue, you are deceived. Liberty from THE LAW is not a liberty to an occasion of the flesh. And, to equate the quotes you presented from William Branham as saying he was preaching "perfection" through dress is simply a fabrication. He never preached perfection was though what anyone wore or did not wear. What you do is obfuscate one issue with another and attribute two lies to William Branham when in fact the very basis of for your reasoning on the first complaint is totally a deception to begin with.		On this issue, you are deceived. Liberty from THE LAW is not a liberty to an occasion of the flesh. And, to equate the quotes you presented from William Branham as saying he was preaching "perfection" through dress is simply a fabrication. He never preached perfection was though what anyone wore or did not wear. What you do is obfuscate one issue with another and attribute two lies to William Branham when in fact the very basis of for your reasoning on the first complaint is totally a deception to begin with.

	'''Here is ~~the answer that was emailed to the person asking the question~~:'''		[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]
			'''Here is our rsponse:'''

	~~[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]~~If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.		If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.

	Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross with something else.		Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross with something else.

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	Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross with something else.		Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross with something else.

	~~Long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.~~ In referring to the issue of hair: Paul stated in 1 Cor 11:16		In referring to the issue of hair: Paul stated in 1 Cor 11:16

	:''But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.'' (KJV)		:''But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.'' (KJV)
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	So while short hair may be preferred on a man, it did not seem Paul was overly dogmatic on the issue and certainly does not give it the force of law.		So while short hair may be preferred on a man, it did not seem Paul was overly dogmatic on the issue and certainly does not give it the force of law.

			So while long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.

	==Related Articles==		==Related Articles==

	[[Mixing Law and Grace]]		[[Mixing Law and Grace]]

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	'''Here is the answer that was emailed to the person asking the question:'''		'''Here is the answer that was emailed to the person asking the question:'''

	[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]If I accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.		[[Image:John Wesley.jpg\|thumbnail\|left\|John Wesley]]If we accept your doctrine that men with long hair (or hair of similar length to former First-Lady Jackie Kennedy) have fallen from grace, then John Wesley has to be included in that category of people that fell from grace. He had hair longer that Mrs. Kennedy.

	Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross ~~for~~ something else. Long hair may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace.		Falling from Grace is different than something like not having peace, not having faith, or not having patience. Falling from Grace is substituting the cross with something else.

			Long hair on a man may not be appropriate based on the scriptures, but it does not mean the man has fallen from grace. In referring to the issue of hair: Paul stated in 1 Cor 11:16

			:''But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.'' (KJV)

			:''But if anyone wants to argue about this, we do not have any custom like this, nor do any of God’s churches.'' (ISV)

			So while short hair may be preferred on a man, it did not seem Paul was overly dogmatic on the issue and certainly does not give it the force of law.

	==Related Articles==		==Related Articles==

	[[Mixing Law and Grace]]		[[Mixing Law and Grace]]

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	This is the gospel that Paul preached – it is a gospel of grace, deliverance and inheritance through faith in Jesus Christ.		This is the gospel that Paul preached – it is a gospel of grace, deliverance and inheritance through faith in Jesus Christ.

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	'''The following question was received via email and has been edited to reduce its length:'''		'''The following question was received via email and has been edited to reduce its length:'''