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<p>Mitgrant: Dr. James E. McDonald, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, University of Arizona, Tucson Cloud-Ring in the Upper Stratosphere— Weatherwise magazine, June 1963, Page 2</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Dr. James E. McDonald, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, University of Arizona, Tucson<br /> <br /> Cloud-Ring in the Upper Stratosphere— Weatherwise magazine, June 1963, Page 2</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: Dr. James E. McDonald, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, University of Arizona, Tucson Cloud-Ring in the Upper Stratosphere— Weatherwise magazine, June 1963, Page 1</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Dr. James E. McDonald, Institute of Atmospheric Physics, University of Arizona, Tucson<br /> <br /> Cloud-Ring in the Upper Stratosphere— Weatherwise magazine, June 1963, Page 1</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: This photograph, part of James E. McDonald&#039;s 1963 investigation, clearly shows two distinct circular cloud features over the Flagstaff, Arizona area on February 28, 1963. The larger, brighter ring is the main structure documented at approximately 43 km altitude. Below and behind it (in the distance) is a fainter, trailing ring or puff-like formation, identified by McDonald as a separate &quot;smoke ring&quot; at roughly 26 km altitude. This image is one of many multi-angle photos McDonald used to perfo...</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> This photograph, part of James E. McDonald's 1963 investigation, clearly shows two distinct circular cloud features over the Flagstaff, Arizona area on February 28, 1963. The larger, brighter ring is the main structure documented at approximately 43 km altitude. Below and behind it (in the distance) is a fainter, trailing ring or puff-like formation, identified by McDonald as a separate &quot;smoke ring&quot; at roughly 26 km altitude. This image is one of many multi-angle photos McDonald used to perform trigonometric calculations of height and separation.</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Tom_Brown&diff=27147 2025-08-19T10:39:21Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> '''Tom Brown''' (1929 - 2015), a retired businessman from Lima, Ohio, travelled with his wife Marilyn to many of [[William Branham]]'s meetings in Jeffersonville, Indiana, and witnessed many miracles in these meetings. They also spent some time with William and Meda Branham, and their daughters were friends with the Branham daughters. Although not officially in charge of recording the sermons of William Branham, Tom Brown did at times bring his own recording equipment to the services, and participate in recording the services. Tom Brown's mother was Mildred (Hardin) Brown (1908-1979). Mildred Brown's sister was Gladys &quot;Geisey&quot; Hardin Dauch (1896-1992). Gladys wed Bill Dauch (1872-1967) on October 31, 1949. At the time of their wedding Bill was 77 years old and Gladys was 53. Neither had been married before. Bill Dauch was Tom Brown's Aunt's husband. Bill Dauch, was a friend of William Branham, and his healing is recorded on various audio tapes.<br /> <br /> The testimonies on this page are excerpts from a video interview with Tom and Marilyn Brown in Lima, Ohio. <br /> <br /> William Branham recognized the Browns with the following statement: <br /> {| style=&quot;border:3px solid #cedff2; float:right; margin-left:15px; padding: 0.3em;&quot; <br /> |&lt;mediaplayer image='File:TBrown-Click.jpg'&gt;File:1TomBrown3.flv&lt;/mediaplayer&gt; <br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> :''So I want to thank Brother and Sister Dauch over here, Brother Brown, and them, who I understood by telephone conversation that they gathered together a group of people and prayed for me. And now, that just is something, does something to you. You know, you pray for others and everything, and then when you find out that somebody's praying for you when you need it, that means a whole lot.'' (The Way Of A True Prophet, Jeffersonville, Indiana, May 13, 1962) <br /> <br /> <br /> =Like a cloud over the congregation=<br /> <br /> The last meetings I was ever in were in Shreveport. That's when Brother Branham preached &quot;On the winds of a Snow White Dove&quot;. And he kept singing that song over and over and over, you know. And then you hear him say on there, &quot;We're waiting on you, Lord.&quot; And when he said &quot;We're waiting on you.&quot; We were clear at the back, and it was like a cloud had just settled over the whole congregation. We got to see it. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Prophecy: Dying with two holes=<br /> {| style=&quot;border:3px solid #cedff2; float:right; margin-left:15px; padding: 0.3em;&quot; <br /> |&lt;mediaplayer image='File:TBrown-Click.jpg'&gt;File:1TomBrown2.flv&lt;/mediaplayer&gt; <br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> Before he preached that Shreveport meeting, I was up in his room with him. His motel room. And he was telling me about different people having dreams of his end. And he says that, about him dying, he said, ...&quot;perhaps shot.&quot; And he pointed to a hole here (lower front neck), and here (side of skull). And of course he died from the automobile accident, you know. But they had been feeding him through the throat, and they had a (?) up on his head, to relieve the pressure on his brain. And that's the way he died: he had the two holes, that he told me about.<br /> <br /> <br /> =Topeka Tornado=<br /> You know, Topeka is where all these tornadoes seem to originate. And there again I drove the Dauch's up to the auditorium where the meeting was going to be, had to go there about 3 hours early. And as we were getting out of the car, you know, it was a nice day, wasn't any clouds or anything. And all at once there was a clap of thunder just like a cannon went off. And it seemed strange, because the skies were clear. And then I went ahead and parked the car, and I come back, and an hour or so passed, and here it started to get a little bit stormy looking. Another hour passed and it started looking real bad. And pretty soon the air raid siren went off. <br /> <br /> And this is the way they warn people, in Kansas, that there is a tornado approaching. Sure enough, a tornado had been sighted. It had touched down, and was coming right towards Topeka about 5 miles out. <br /> And some of the people that were with Brother Branham in the motel, said that he come out and saw it, and he said, &quot;It's going to be all right. It's going to break up and the sun will come out.&quot; <br /> <br /> And that's exactly what happened, just like he said it would. We were there. <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page No Ref}}<br /> [[index.php?title=Category:Associates of William Branham]]<br /> [[index.php?title=Category:Testimonies]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: Corrected the relationship between Tom Brown and Bill Dauch</p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> '''Tom Brown''' (1929 - 2015), a retired businessman from Lima, Ohio, travelled with his wife Marilyn to many of [[William Branham]]'s meetings in Jeffersonville, Indiana, and witnessed many miracles in these meetings. They also spent some time with William and Meda Branham, and their daughters were friends with the Branham daughters. Although not officially in charge of recording the sermons of William Branham, Tom Brown did at times bring his own recording equipment to the services, and participate in recording the services. Tom Brown's mother was Mildred (Hardin) Brown (1908-1979). Mildred Brown's sister was Gladys &quot;Geisey&quot; Hardin Dauch (1896-1992). Gladys wed Bill Dauch (1872-1967) on October 31, 1949. At time of their wedding Bill was 77 years old and Gladys was 53. Neither had been married before. Bill Dauch was Tom Brown's Aunt's husband. Bill Dauch, was a friend of William Branham, and his healing is recorded on various audio tapes.<br /> <br /> The testimonies on this page are excerpts from a video interview with Tom and Marilyn Brown in Lima, Ohio. <br /> <br /> William Branham recognized the Browns with the following statement: <br /> {| style=&quot;border:3px solid #cedff2; float:right; margin-left:15px; padding: 0.3em;&quot; <br /> |&lt;mediaplayer image='File:TBrown-Click.jpg'&gt;File:1TomBrown3.flv&lt;/mediaplayer&gt; <br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> :''So I want to thank Brother and Sister Dauch over here, Brother Brown, and them, who I understood by telephone conversation that they gathered together a group of people and prayed for me. And now, that just is something, does something to you. You know, you pray for others and everything, and then when you find out that somebody's praying for you when you need it, that means a whole lot.'' (The Way Of A True Prophet, Jeffersonville, Indiana, May 13, 1962) <br /> <br /> <br /> =Like a cloud over the congregation=<br /> <br /> The last meetings I was ever in were in Shreveport. That's when Brother Branham preached &quot;On the winds of a Snow White Dove&quot;. And he kept singing that song over and over and over, you know. And then you hear him say on there, &quot;We're waiting on you, Lord.&quot; And when he said &quot;We're waiting on you.&quot; We were clear at the back, and it was like a cloud had just settled over the whole congregation. We got to see it. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Prophecy: Dying with two holes=<br /> {| style=&quot;border:3px solid #cedff2; float:right; margin-left:15px; padding: 0.3em;&quot; <br /> |&lt;mediaplayer image='File:TBrown-Click.jpg'&gt;File:1TomBrown2.flv&lt;/mediaplayer&gt; <br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> Before he preached that Shreveport meeting, I was up in his room with him. His motel room. And he was telling me about different people having dreams of his end. And he says that, about him dying, he said, ...&quot;perhaps shot.&quot; And he pointed to a hole here (lower front neck), and here (side of skull). And of course he died from the automobile accident, you know. But they had been feeding him through the throat, and they had a (?) up on his head, to relieve the pressure on his brain. And that's the way he died: he had the two holes, that he told me about.<br /> <br /> <br /> =Topeka Tornado=<br /> You know, Topeka is where all these tornadoes seem to originate. And there again I drove the Dauch's up to the auditorium where the meeting was going to be, had to go there about 3 hours early. And as we were getting out of the car, you know, it was a nice day, wasn't any clouds or anything. And all at once there was a clap of thunder just like a cannon went off. And it seemed strange, because the skies were clear. And then I went ahead and parked the car, and I come back, and an hour or so passed, and here it started to get a little bit stormy looking. Another hour passed and it started looking real bad. And pretty soon the air raid siren went off. <br /> <br /> And this is the way they warn people, in Kansas, that there is a tornado approaching. Sure enough, a tornado had been sighted. It had touched down, and was coming right towards Topeka about 5 miles out. <br /> And some of the people that were with Brother Branham in the motel, said that he come out and saw it, and he said, &quot;It's going to be all right. It's going to break up and the sun will come out.&quot; <br /> <br /> And that's exactly what happened, just like he said it would. We were there. <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page No Ref}}<br /> [[index.php?title=Category:Associates of William Branham]]<br /> [[index.php?title=Category:Testimonies]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: Documents Donny Morton&#039;s stay in the hospital.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Documents Donny Morton's stay in the hospital.</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=William_Branham_Maternal_Genealogy&diff=26888 2023-01-13T22:29:53Z

<p>Mitgrant: Added great Granddaughter&#039;s confirmation of European descent</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1920 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> '''Genealogical research confirmation.'''<br /> <br /> The great Granddaughter of William Branham's mother's sister has confirmed that William Branham's mother was of European descent. This is an ongoing research project and more information will be added as it comes available. <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=William_Branham_Maternal_Genealogy&diff=26687 2022-10-13T11:30:21Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1920 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=William_Branham_Maternal_Genealogy&diff=26686 2022-10-13T11:29:43Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1920 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> {{ABM Q&amp;A re Prophecies}}<br /> <br /> =Question 23 -Can we ignore the plain reading of Deuteronomy 18:20-22?=<br /> <br /> Dear ABM,<br /> <br /> There are some issues in your most recent response that I will follow up with at a later date. I am aware of the street preachers in Ontario as I know one of them personally. In my view they are mentally unbalanced. <br /> <br /> I respect you not wanting to compromise your anonymity and am not asking you to do so. <br /> <br /> This is a follow-on to question 21 &amp; 22 but deals with the scriptural problem of the failure of William Branham's prophecies.<br /> <br /> God speaks plainly about the status of a prophet in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy 18:19-22:<br /> <br /> :''I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”<br /> <br /> :''You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (NIV)<br /> <br /> '''Speaking in the name of the Lord when God did not really speak was a capital offense.'''<br /> <br /> William Branham agreed with this when he stated:<br /> <br /> :''...here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. &quot;If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking.&quot; Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. (62-0407 - The Signs Of His Coming)<br /> <br /> According to the Old Testament, a prophet was to be heard and obeyed. To ignore the word of a prophet would lead to divine judgment - God would hold the disobedient to account. <br /> <br /> Given the serious nature of failure to obey the prophetic word, it is critical to distinguish between true and false prophecy. In addition, the criminal nature of false prophecy is stressed by the imposition of capital punishment for the offender. <br /> <br /> But in order to know whether to obey the word of a prophet, and in order to condemn a false prophet, criteria was laid out to differentiate between true and false prophets. In some cases the distinction was easy - when a prophet spoke in the name of other gods, he was not only a false prophet, but he was also guilty of breaking the first commandment, and therefore was deserving of the death penalty. Since he is a fraud, you need not be afraid to punish him or to ignore him completely.<br /> <br /> The more difficult case would be that in which a prophet actually spoke his own words, but claimed to be speaking the words of God, and therefore—among other crimes—was guilty of gross presumption. Since the people would rely on the instructions of prophets for vital matters, they needed criteria for identifying prophets that were not truly from God.<br /> <br /> The criteria for distinguishing the true words of God are expressed very succinctly in two clauses: <br /> <br /> :(a) The word is not true — the word supposedly spoken by God through the prophet was not in accord with the word of God already revealed and it was therefore automatically suspect, or<br /> <br /> :(b) It did not come to pass — this is where the prophetic words were predictive in nature. Discerning the truth of the words would lie in their fulfillment or lack thereof.<br /> <br /> The criteria represent the means by which a prophet gained his reputation as a true prophet and spokesman of the Lord. <br /> The failure of a prediction to materialize would show the prophet to be false. However, people could hardly suspend judgment about the authenticity of every prophecy until its outcome was clear. Those who received instructions from a prophet had to decide immediately whether or not to follow them. So in practice, the credibility of a prophet could only be tested in the long run, after he or she had established a record of accurate or inaccurate predictions. <br /> <br /> The criteria for establishing whether a prophetic word (prediction) is true or false are stated negatively, as it cannot be reversed to imply that if a prophet’s word came true, he was necessarily a true prophet for that reason alone (Deut 13:1–5). The test for matters which the prophet said would come to pass in his lifetime is fulfillment during the lifetime of that prophet.<br /> <br /> Over the course of a prophet’s ministry, in matters important and less significant, the character of a prophet as a true spokesman of God would begin to emerge clearly. And equally, false prophets would be discredited and then dealt with under the law.<br /> <br /> This is what happened in the ministry of the prophet Samuel, In 1 Samuel 3:19-20, the Bible says:<br /> <br /> :''As Samuel grew up, the Lord was with him, and everything Samuel said proved to be reliable. And all Israel, from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south, knew that Samuel was confirmed as a prophet of the Lord.<br /> <br /> Micaiah declared that his claim to speak for the Lord would be disproved if his prediction of Ahab’s death in battle did not come true. We also see this in the case of Moses. Even when he disobeyed God, God still confirmed the word of Moses because Moses was a prophet:<br /> <br /> :''He and Aaron gathered the assembly together in front of the rock and Moses said to them, “Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?” Then Moses raised his arm and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out, and the community and their livestock drank. <br /> <br /> :''But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.” (Nu 20:10–12)<br /> <br /> '''Even in disobedience, God backed up the words of Moses.'''<br /> <br /> But he failed to do that for William Branham.<br /> <br /> ==Petty silliness?==<br /> <br /> You have referred to our concern with several of William Branham's failed prophecies as &quot;petty silliness.&quot;<br /> <br /> We must disagree. When William Branham claims to be a prophet, states that God spoke to him, and then the prophecy fails, this is a serious problem. It is not silly and it is not petty!<br /> <br /> William Branham said that the Brown Bear vision was &quot;Thus Saith The Lord.&quot;<br /> <br /> Your best defense of this failed prophecy was &quot;this will be fulfilled when Bro. Branham is resurrected.&quot;<br /> <br /> With respect, how would Deut 18:19-22 ever have had application if a prophet could state that his vision had not failed but would be fulfilled by him after the resurrection. I am of the view that such explanations (and we have heard them previously) are completely opposed to scripture. There is ZERO basis in scripture for this. &quot;''It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.''''' (Heb 9:27) <br /> <br /> The basic assumption, the presupposition of those in the message, the thing that you believe is true without having any proof, is that William Branham is a prophet. But we actually stopped and said to ourselves - &quot;Can we prove William Branham to be a prophet, based on the facts alone, without any presuppositions?&quot; <br /> <br /> We tried to prove the message to be correct but ran into so many problems that we were forced to conclude, on the basis of the facts alone, that William Branham was not a prophet (opposite to what he claimed). We did not want to arrive at that conclusion. Leaving the message cost us the majority of our friends. It was not something that we did lightly.<br /> <br /> When we started our examination of the message, there were no problems on our &quot;problem shelf.&quot; But three years into our research, we had encountered so many major problems that there were problems falling off the shelf. The shelf was full and we left the message.<br /> <br /> Given the choice between friends and the truth, I chose to follow the truth, even though I knew it would cost me virtually all of my friends.<br /> <br /> ==Bad or misinterpretation?==<br /> <br /> William Branham stood under the municipal bridge in Jeffersonville and pointed out to Pearry Green the section of the bridge that fell into the river. Pearry Green related this story to me himself and when I questioned him as to the historical probllems with William Branham's statement, he exclaimed, &quot;The prophet of God would not have lied to me.&quot; <br /> <br /> But what he related to Pearry Green was a lie.<br /> <br /> How can I trust William Branham's biblical interpretation when he can't even interpret a vision that he said God supernaturally gave him. How can I trust a man to help me find the truth when he lied to a man about a vision that God supposedly showed him and was part of his vindication as a prophet?<br /> <br /> I can't! <br /> <br /> ==Confirmation Bias==<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias has been defined as “the tendency to selectively search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions or hypotheses.” This bias may be manifested in a number of ways.<br /> <br /> First, people will search for and gather information selectively. Psychological experiments have found that people tend to test their hypotheses in a one-sided way, by searching for evidence that is consistent with their current line of thinking. Rather than working through all the available evidence, people tend to focus on information that supports their preexisting hypothesis or belief. The other side of this tendency is that people give less attention to or discredit information that does not support their pre-existing views.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias may also be displayed in people’s tendency to interpret evidence in a way that supports their preexisting position. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to the handling of ambiguous information; psychological studies have shown that people are more likely to interpret ambiguous evidence as confirming their preexisting beliefs than disconfirming of them. It can also be seen in the way that people tend to take hypothesis-confirming data at face value, while subjecting disconfirming data to considerable scrutiny.<br /> <br /> An interesting example of confirmation bias is the thinking of conspiracy theorists; for example, those who believe that the United States Government was behind the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001. These people characteristically focus on the “evidence” that supports their position, and they interpret it in such a way that it fits the conspiracy they have built in their minds. On the other hand, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence effectively concluded that the belief of the CIA and other members of the Western intelligence community that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction prior to the second Gulf War was heavily influenced by confirmation bias.<br /> <br /> Researchers have shown that the effect of confirmation bias is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. In both instances, people are more likely to be resistant to change. Therefore, we would expect this bias to be a significant factor when it comes to biblical interpretation or your belief that William Branham was a vindicated prophet, which is often dealing with issues that are emotionally significant and involves deeply-held beliefs.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias influences message believers in a number of ways. When interpreting Deuteronomy 18:19-22, message believers will seek (consciously or unconsciously) to confirm an understanding of the meaning of the passage that will not be negative to William Branham. In other words, they do not approach the text from a neutral standpoint, looking to weigh up all the different possibilities before deciding on the “correct” understanding. Instead, they come at the text from a “slant,” focusing on the textual evidence that supports their preexisting understanding that it could not possibly disqualify William Branham. <br /> <br /> Confirmation bias is also evident in our discussion. I will readily admit that I had it when I was &quot;in the message.&quot; Message followers have a tendency to search for passages that confirm their preexisting theology (i.e. supporting the message). (The preceding discussion is based on Aaron Chalmers, “The Influence of Cognitive Biases on Biblical Interpretation,” Bulletin for Biblical Research 26, no. 4 (2016): 470–472.)<br /> <br /> I do not believe anyone in the message sufficiently objective to understand this. I personally had to deal with this. I did not want to believe that William Branham failed the test of Deut 18:19-22. It is evident in all my discussions with message followers that cognitive bias is present in their view of the scripture as it relates to the message.<br /> <br /> This is simply an observation, although I do not believe that you are likely to recognize this.<br /> <br /> ==The tapes have been altered==<br /> <br /> You stated that &quot;the subsequent spoken word books created from the tapes, did not line up with their (Junior Jackson and Orman Neville's) memory of Branham's sermons or with original recordings of the services which they themselves possessed.&quot; The problem is that this cannot be verified and, honestly, we must state that we do not believe this to be true,<br /> <br /> The reason we can state this is twofold:<br /> <br /> #David Mamalis, who threatened Spoken Word Publications (now Voice of God) with legal action over the tapes being in the public domain, published his own set of message books based on the tapes he had. These do not significantly disagree with those that have been published by Jeffersonville.<br /> #Neither Junior Jackson or Orman Neville published their set of tapes. It would be quite easy to publish their &quot;version&quot; of the tapes on the internet as MP3 files but this has never been done. As a result, I cannot take this criticism seriously.<br /> As a result, I must conclude that Deuteronomy 18:19-22 requiries William Branham to be viewed as a false prophet.<br /> <br /> ==Disobedience to God==<br /> <br /> With respect to the vision of the African visions, you stated that:<br /> <br /> :''God can show someone a possible future for them, which is contingent on them obeying him. One example is Moses. In Exodus 3:14-17 God plainly says that he was going to take Moses into the promised land. But he failed to obey God, and God did not fulfill to Moses what he offered. (Was God lying to Moses when said he would take him to the promised land? God did not even mention a contingency when he spoke the promise to Moses.) <br /> <br /> With respect, your reading of the passage is entirely incorrect:<br /> <br /> :''God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations. Go and gather the elders of Israel together and say to them, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has appeared to me, saying, “I have observed you and what has been done to you in Egypt, and I promise that I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, a land flowing with milk and honey.” ’ <br /> <br /> God was not speaking to Moses, he was speaking to the people of Israel. And this scripture was fulfilled when Joshua took the nation of Israel into the promised land.<br /> <br /> In Moses day, William Branham would have been sentenced to death when he went to the Yukon and the vision failed. He tried to excuse himself that it related to disobedience. But if a prophet could be excused from Deut 18:19-22 by disobedience, how would this scripture ever have been applied?<br /> <br /> This is not petty silliness. This is a man who spoke presumptuously in the name of the Lord.<br /> <br /> The message interpretation of Deuteronomy 18:19-22 nullifies the word of God, making it of no effect.<br /> <br /> Shalom,<br /> <br /> BTS<br /> <br /> =Response from ABM=<br /> <br /> BTS,<br /> <br /> Thank you for your continued dialogue.<br /> <br /> Your last email has alot to unpack, so I will respond inline<br /> <br /> BTS: There are some issues in your most recent response that I will follow up with at a later date. I am aware of the street preachers in Ontario as I know one of them personally. In my view they are mentally unbalanced. <br /> <br /> ABM: I would agree with assessment of them.<br /> <br /> BTS: I respect you not wanting to compromise your anonymity and am not asking you to do so. <br /> <br /> ABM: Thank you<br /> <br /> BTS: This is a follow-on to question 21 &amp; 22 but deals with the scriptural problem of the failure of William Branham's prophecies.<br /> <br /> God speaks plainly about the status of a prophet in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy 18:19-22:<br /> <br /> I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”<br /> <br /> You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (NIV)<br /> <br /> Speaking in the name of the Lord when God did not really speak was a capital offense.<br /> <br /> William Branham agreed with this when he stated:<br /> <br /> ...here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. &quot;If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking.&quot; Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. (62-0407 - The Signs Of His Coming)<br /> <br /> According to the Old Testament, a prophet was to be heard and obeyed. To ignore the word of a prophet would lead to divine judgment - God would hold the disobedient to account. <br /> <br /> Given the serious nature of failure to obey the prophetic word, it is critical to distinguish between true and false prophecy. In addition, the criminal nature of false prophecy is stressed by the imposition of capital punishment for the offender. <br /> <br /> But in order to know whether to obey the word of a prophet, and in order to condemn a false prophet, criteria was laid out to differentiate between true and false prophets. In some cases the distinction was easy - when a prophet spoke in the name of other gods, he was not only a false prophet, but he was also guilty of breaking the first commandment, and therefore was deserving of the death penalty. Since he is a fraud, you need not be afraid to punish him or to ignore him completely.<br /> <br /> The more difficult case would be that in which a prophet actually spoke his own words, but claimed to be speaking the words of God, and therefore—among other crimes—was guilty of gross presumption. Since the people would rely on the instructions of prophets for vital matters, they needed criteria for identifying prophets that were not truly from God.<br /> <br /> The criteria for distinguishing the true words of God are expressed very succinctly in two clauses: <br /> <br /> (a) The word is not true — the word supposedly spoken by God through the prophet was not in accord with the word of God already revealed and it was therefore automatically suspect, or<br /> <br /> (b) It did not come to pass — this is where the prophetic words were predictive in nature. Discerning the truth of the words would lie in their fulfillment or lack thereof.<br /> <br /> ABM: I agree with everything to this point. I would argue that for a forthtelling prophecy, one needs only to determine if it is true.<br /> <br /> BTS: The criteria represent the means by which a prophet gained his reputation as a true prophet and spokesman of the Lord. The failure of a prediction to materialize would show the prophet to be false. However, people could hardly suspend judgment about the authenticity of every prophecy until its outcome was clear. Those who received instructions from a prophet had to decide immediately whether or not to follow them. So in practice, the credibility of a prophet could only be tested in the long run, after he or she had established a record of accurate or inaccurate predictions. <br /> <br /> ABM: My position is this: There are numerous forthtelling prophecies that meet the standard for critera (a), they were true. Forthtelling prophecy was the primary use of Bro. Branham's prophetic gift. I am satisfied that there are enough provably accurate forthtelling prophesies that his gift can be accepted as genuine. And if you would accept witnesses who establish some of the foretelling prophecies as before the fact, you could also satisfy point (b). <br /> <br /> BTS: The criteria for establishing whether a prophetic word (prediction) is true or false are stated negatively, as it cannot be reversed to imply that if a prophet’s word came true, he was necessarily a true prophet for that reason alone (Deut 13:1–5). The test for matters which the prophet said would come to pass in his lifetime is fulfillment during the lifetime of that prophet.<br /> <br /> ABM: I come back to an example like Obadiah. I have no evidence he ever made a before the fact prophecy in his lifetime, and I have no evidence any prophecy he made ever has came to pass. By what means can I consider him a prophet? I have to accept he is a prophet because he claimed to be one and other people at the time deemed him to be one. This does stand in contrast to Duet 18:20-22. My interpretation is that Duet 18:20-22 is a mechanism for detecting a false prophet, but it is not a sure proof way to prove a true prophet. Because if we use it to validate a true prophet, then prophets like Obadiah would have to be considered at best a potential prophet and at worst a false prophet. In the case of Elijah the prophet, he never issued any foretelling prophecy on record, and he seems to be completely validated by his forthtelling prophecies. Why can we not validate Bro. Branham in the same way?<br /> <br /> BTS: Over the course of a prophet’s ministry, in matters important and less significant, the character of a prophet as a true spokesman of God would begin to emerge clearly. And equally, false prophets would be discredited and then dealt with under the law.<br /> <br /> This is what happened in the ministry of the prophet Samuel, In 1 Samuel 3:19-20, the Bible says:<br /> <br /> As Samuel grew up, the Lord was with him, and everything Samuel said proved to be reliable. And all Israel, from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south, knew that Samuel was confirmed as a prophet of the Lord.<br /> <br /> Micaiah declared that his claim to speak for the Lord would be disproved if his prediction of Ahab’s death in battle did not come true. We also see this in the case of Moses. Even when he disobeyed God, God still confirmed the word of Moses because Moses was a prophet:<br /> <br /> He and Aaron gathered the assembly together in front of the rock and Moses said to them, “Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?” Then Moses raised his arm and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out, and the community and their livestock drank. <br /> <br /> But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.” (Nu 20:10–12)<br /> <br /> Even in disobedience, God backed up the words of Moses.<br /> <br /> But he failed to do that for William Branham.<br /> <br /> ABM: I disagree. God plainly said to Moses in Exodus 6:8 (or Exodus 3:18) &quot;I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob&quot; But after he disobeyed he then said to him &quot;And the LORD said unto Moses, Get thee up into this mount Abarim, and see the land which I have given unto the children of Israel.And when thou hast seen it, thou also shalt be gathered unto thy people, as Aaron thy brother was gathered. For ye rebelled against my commandment in the desert of Zin, in the strife of the congregation, to sanctify me at the water before their eyes: that is the water of Meribah in Kadesh in the wilderness of Zin.&quot; Plainly, God failed to bring to pass what he had previously offered without condition. <br /> <br /> You mention the prophet Macaiah. Macaiah gave a blatantly false prophesy in 1 Kings 22:13-15. He did it for selfish reasons in order to please men. By your rationale, he should be deemed a false prophet too. Yet you consider him to a be a true prophet. Why is it OK for Macaiah to give a false prophesy and speak presumptuously but not Bro. Branham? (I do no agree Bro. Branham spoke presumptuously.) I again see exceptions in the bible to your interpretation of Duet 18:20-22.<br /> <br /> BTS: Petty silliness?<br /> <br /> You have referred to our concern with several of William Branham's failed prophecies as &quot;petty silliness.&quot;<br /> <br /> ABM: Specifically the brown bear vision and the Marilyn Monroe vision.<br /> <br /> BTS: We must disagree. When William Branham claims to be a prophet, states that God spoke to him, and then the prophecy fails, this is a serious problem. It is not silly and it is not petty!<br /> <br /> William Branham said that the Brown Bear vision was &quot;Thus Saith The Lord.&quot;<br /> <br /> Your best defense of this failed prophecy was &quot;this will be fulfilled when Bro. Branham is resurrected.&quot;<br /> <br /> With respect, how would Deut 18:19-22 ever have had application if a prophet could state that his vision had not failed but would be fulfilled by him after the resurrection. I am of the view that such explanations (and we have heard them previously) are completely opposed to scripture. There is ZERO basis in scripture for this. &quot;It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.&quot; (Heb 9:27) <br /> <br /> ABM: I go back to the analysis of the exodus. God plainly said to Moses and the children of Isreal &quot;I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob&quot; But then God did not bring them to the land. How can this promise of God be fulfilled to Moses until he is resurrected? God cannot lie. This must come to pass at some point. If I accept Bro. Branham's forthtelling prophecies as vindication of his gift, then I have easily 10 to 1 ratio of good prophesies to unfilled prophesies. That is a better rate than most prophet of the bible. The majority of Ezekial, Zechariah, etc, still remain unfulfilled. I feel like we only arrive at this conclusion that Bro. Branham had no good prophecies by ignoring his primary use of the gift. If I could dismiss all his forthtelling prophecies, I would be in agreement with you. I would agree that his foretelling prophecies are tenuous and cause for concern. But when I view his limited and tenous foretelling prophecies in light of the many accurate forthtelling prophecies, it gives me pause and gives me a reason to try and find a plausible way in which the foretelling prophecies can still be fulfilled. (If you wan to call this confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance, that is ok. To me, it is a reasonable position to take after a full review of all the evidence.)<br /> <br /> BTS: The basic assumption, the presupposition of those in the message, the thing that you believe is true without having any proof, is that William Branham is a prophet. But we actually stopped and said to ourselves - &quot;Can we prove William Branham to be a prophet, based on the facts alone, without any presuppositions?&quot; <br /> <br /> ABM: To this I have to say emphatically yes. We can prove he had a true gift of prophecy because we can prove his forthtelling prophecies were accurate. Even Hollenwager established the accuracy of the gift saying he was &quot;impressed by the remarkable accuracy&quot;. There are numerous people who attest to it, and I can personally witness to it. But you seem to dismiss this as an act of prophecy in favor of only accepting a foretelling prophecy. Duet 18:20-22 does not require a prophet to give a foretelling prophecy. Forthtelling prophecies can also be validated using the same mechanism.<br /> <br /> BTS: We tried to prove the message to be correct but ran into so many problems that we were forced to conclude, on the basis of the facts alone, that William Branham was not a prophet (opposite to what he claimed). We did not want to arrive at that conclusion. Leaving the message cost us the majority of our friends. It was not something that we did lightly.<br /> <br /> When we started our examination of the message, there were no problems on our &quot;problem shelf.&quot; But three years into our research, we had encountered so many major problems that there were problems falling off the shelf. The shelf was full and we left the message.<br /> <br /> Given the choice between friends and the truth, I chose to follow the truth, even though I knew it would cost me virtually all of my friends.<br /> <br /> ABM: I am familiar with the sect of the message you exited from. I am all to familiar with the cost of leaving or splits and divisions. You are not the only one to have paid a heavily cost in friendships and relationships. I empathize with you. I have met Byskal at different times, Green, and the others. I know their preaching style and some of the things they believed. I find no surprise that you could find all manner of problems with the way in which they interpreted Bro. Branham's teachings and applied them. From grace to sanctification, from bible prophesy to gifts of the spirit, to even their view of the purpose of Bro. Branham's ministry, I believe they are wrong. They have always been wrong. It is because they accepted Bro. Branham's mistakes as the gospel. There is a dramatically different interpretations to Bro. Branham which is accepted elsewhere in the message, which is more of a middle ground between how Charistimatic's view Bro. Branham and how the core message believer view him. It is far more palatable than how the idolatrous people view him. My personal opinion is that you still probably believe most of the message, (the true message) and that you still probably accept the true doctrines Bro. Branham taught. I believe you have taken the good you can get from it and moved on, leaving the bad behind. Which is exactly the correct thing to do... Which is exactly what some of Bro. Branham's followers have done. Old manna cannot sustain us for fifty years. And we have been preaching that for fifty years. I am not asking you to reply to this point, but if you examine what you believe today, do you truly find that none of what you believe is a result of Bro. Branham's teachings?<br /> <br /> BTS: Bad or misinterpretation?<br /> <br /> William Branham stood under the municipal bridge in Jeffersonville and pointed out to Pearry Green the section of the bridge that fell into the river. Pearry Green related this story to me himself and when I questioned him as to the historical probllems with William Branham's statement, he exclaimed, &quot;The prophet of God would not have lied to me.&quot; <br /> <br /> But what he related to Pearry Green was a lie.<br /> <br /> How can I trust William Branham's biblical interpretation when he can't even interpret a vision that he said God supernaturally gave him. How can I trust a man to help me find the truth when he lied to a man about a vision that God supposedly showed him and was part of his vindication as a prophet?<br /> <br /> I can't! <br /> <br /> ABM: I agree with you! 100% agree. We cannot trust a man to show us anything. That is why the bible says to try the spirits to know whether they be of God. The only way we can validate Bro. Branham's teachings is by the word and the only way we can validate his gift is by seeing if it was accurate. His teachings must be substantiated by the bible. If we cannot substantiate them, we do not put them on the shelf. We put them in the trash can. But I can put them in the trash can without having to conclude Bro. Branham was a totally false prophet. I can conclude maybe there are some things he just did not know.<br /> <br /> BTS: Confirmation Bias<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias has been defined as “the tendency to selectively search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions or hypotheses.” This bias may be manifested in a number of ways.<br /> <br /> First, people will search for and gather information selectively. Psychological experiments have found that people tend to test their hypotheses in a one-sided way, by searching for evidence that is consistent with their current line of thinking. Rather than working through all the available evidence, people tend to focus on information that supports their preexisting hypothesis or belief. The other side of this tendency is that people give less attention to or discredit information that does not support their pre-existing views.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias may also be displayed in people’s tendency to interpret evidence in a way that supports their preexisting position. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to the handling of ambiguous information; psychological studies have shown that people are more likely to interpret ambiguous evidence as confirming their preexisting beliefs than disconfirming of them. It can also be seen in the way that people tend to take hypothesis-confirming data at face value, while subjecting disconfirming data to considerable scrutiny.<br /> <br /> An interesting example of confirmation bias is the thinking of conspiracy theorists; for example, those who believe that the United States Government was behind the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001. These people characteristically focus on the “evidence” that supports their position, and they interpret it in such a way that it fits the conspiracy they have built in their minds. On the other hand, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence effectively concluded that the belief of the CIA and other members of the Western intelligence community that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction prior to the second Gulf War was heavily influenced by confirmation bias.<br /> <br /> Researchers have shown that the effect of confirmation bias is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. In both instances, people are more likely to be resistant to change. Therefore, we would expect this bias to be a significant factor when it comes to biblical interpretation or your belief that William Branham was a vindicated prophet, which is often dealing with issues that are emotionally significant and involves deeply-held beliefs.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias influences message believers in a number of ways. When interpreting Deuteronomy 18:19-22, message believers will seek (consciously or unconsciously) to confirm an understanding of the meaning of the passage that will not be negative to William Branham. In other words, they do not approach the text from a neutral standpoint, looking to weigh up all the different possibilities before deciding on the “correct” understanding. Instead, they come at the text from a “slant,” focusing on the textual evidence that supports their preexisting understanding that it could not possibly disqualify William Branham. <br /> <br /> Confirmation bias is also evident in our discussion. I will readily admit that I had it when I was &quot;in the message.&quot; Message followers have a tendency to search for passages that confirm their preexisting theology (i.e. supporting the message). (The preceding discussion is based on Aaron Chalmers, “The Influence of Cognitive Biases on Biblical Interpretation,” Bulletin for Biblical Research 26, no. 4 (2016): 470–472.)<br /> <br /> I do not believe anyone in the message sufficiently objective to understand this. I personally had to deal with this. I did not want to believe that William Branham failed the test of Deut 18:19-22. It is evident in all my discussions with message followers that cognitive bias is present in their view of the scripture as it relates to the message.<br /> <br /> This is simply an observation, although I do not believe that you are likely to recognize this.<br /> <br /> ABM: I understand what you are saying. &quot;Nathan Rivera&quot; was the first to put out this type of thought against message believers. I will actually agree with you. I do indeed go out of my way to try and find a way to prove what I believe to be true. In this life, I truly have no way to prove Jesus is alive in heaven right now seated at the right hand of the father. All I have is the words a man wrote in a book saying it is so and a feeling in my heart that it is true. I believe if there is to be proof of Christ, it has to be proof within myself. I believe I can be living proof that he is real. While others cannot see Jesus, they can see what he has done for me, and that can be proof. When I look at Jesus followers I see all kinds of problems. I see crusaders, inquisitions, I see churches full of sexual abuse. But I do not blame Jesus for that. He taught them better than that. They just twist what he said for their own ends. Jesus said &quot;think not that I am come to bring peace on the earth, but a sword&quot;. People have used that to justify violence in the of the Lord. Jesus said &quot;except you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will die&quot;. People rejected Jesus because they thought he was talking about cannibalism. But I instead choose to find a way to interpret what he said in a different manner that reconciles with his full teachings. I do the same for Bro. Branham, because I believe he was an authentic minister of Christ. If I find something I cannot reconcile, I reject it, and assume he meant well but failed to communicate it properly.<br /> <br /> <br /> BTS: The tapes have been altered<br /> <br /> You stated that &quot;the subsequent spoken word books created from the tapes, did not line up with their (Junior Jackson and Orman Neville's) memory of Branham's sermons or with original recordings of the services which they themselves possessed.&quot; The problem is that this cannot be verified and, honestly, we must state that we do not believe this to be true,<br /> <br /> ABM: I agree it cannot be fully verified. The only master copy of some of the altered tapes was in the possession of Leo Mercer... But it can be verified that those men, and others, have alleged the tapes were altered significantly.<br /> <br /> BTS: The reason we can state this is twofold:<br /> David Mamalis, who threatened Spoken Word Publications (now Voice of God) with legal action over the tapes being in the public domain, published his own set of message books based on the tapes he had. These do not significantly disagree with those that have been published by Jeffersonville.<br /> <br /> Neither Junior Jackson or Orman Neville published their set of tapes. It would be quite easy to publish their &quot;version&quot; of the tapes on the internet as MP3 files but this has never been done. As a result, I cannot take this criticism seriously.<br /> ABM: I would not use this argument to try and say a given prophecy was altered (though perhaps it was inserted on tape at a different time than originally given). I am not aware of any prophecy that was altered. My statement on this point was in regards to some statements in 1956 which were time sensitive in nature. David Mamalis's collection of original tapes is very small, he was primarily using many of the same source tapes VGR used, a large portion of which came from Leo Mercer. Neville died in 1974, so his ability to do much was limited. Jackson did not issue corrected tapes, but he did issue in his magazine a written list of the tapes he knew were altered and a description of the alterations that were made. He claimed to have accurate original tapes too.<br /> <br /> BTS: As a result, I must conclude that Deuteronomy 18:19-22 requires William Branham to be viewed as a false prophet.<br /> <br /> ABM: You have the freedom to make that conclusion.<br /> <br /> BTS: Disobedience to God<br /> <br /> With respect to the vision of the African visions, you stated that:<br /> <br /> God can show someone a possible future for them, which is contingent on them obeying him. One example is Moses. In Exodus 3:14-17 God plainly says that he was going to take Moses into the promised land. But he failed to obey God, and God did not fulfill to Moses what he offered. (Was God lying to Moses when said he would take him to the promised land? God did not even mention a contingency when he spoke the promise to Moses.) <br /> <br /> With respect, your reading of the passage is entirely incorrect:<br /> <br /> God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations. Go and gather the elders of Israel together and say to them, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has appeared to me, saying, “I have observed you and what has been done to you in Egypt, and I promise that I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, a land flowing with milk and honey.” ’ <br /> <br /> God was not speaking to Moses, he was speaking to the people of Israel. And this scripture was fulfilled when Joshua took the nation of Israel into the promised land.<br /> <br /> ABM: I think we are going to continue to disagree on this point. I could say you are doing the same thing you suggest I am doing. Finding a way to interpret the scripture to meet your goal. God did not say &quot;Say the people of Israel who are yet to be born&quot; and he did not say &quot;Say to the elders of Israel, I will take your descendants...&quot; or &quot;I will bring your descendants to the land...&quot; He said you, and this people the and pointing to those to whom he was speaking. It was a personal promise to the individuals he was speaking to.<br /> <br /> BTS: In Moses day, William Branham would have been sentenced to death when he went to the Yukon and the vision failed. He tried to excuse himself that it related to disobedience. But if a prophet could be excused from Deut 18:19-22 by disobedience, how would this scripture ever have been applied?<br /> <br /> ABM: Disobedience is not an adequate excuse for the total failure of a prophecy. But is an adequate &quot;excuse&quot; for its deferred fulfillment. There are multiple examples of this in the scripture, as the example with Moses.<br /> <br /> BTS: This is not petty silliness. This is a man who spoke presumptuously in the name of the Lord.<br /> <br /> ABM: I think the Marylin Monroe issue is silly because the nature of the prophecy makes it impossible to prove it actually failed to come to pass. I think the Brown Bear vision issue is silly because we cannot definitively prove that it failed to come to pass. Thus, I cannot hang my judgement that he spoke presumptuously on either of those two prophecies. I do not see how they advance your case in a solid way, and thus I judge the issue silly. The closest you come is the South Africa meetings vision, which I do not call silly. That is more serious, but has a plausible explanation.<br /> <br /> BTS: The message interpretation of Deuteronomy 18:19-22 nullifies the word of God, making it of no effect<br /> <br /> ABM: This conclusion is only reached if you reject the possibility of future fulfillment. I can understand why you reject that possibility and thus arrive at the conclusion. I however see a potential future fulfillment, and arrive at a different conclusion.<br /> <br /> I do not feel we are going to change each others opinion on this subject, but I think we have both well stated our position. I appreciate your position and do not condemn you for it.<br /> <br /> I appreciate the time you are taking to correspond with me. You are proving yourself a fair person, and I appreciate that. I see you are trying to judge things by the Bible, and I have a great respect for that. I hope you likewise are finding value in our communications.<br /> <br /> Kind regards,<br /> <br /> ABM<br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]<br /> [[Category: Questions and Answers]]<br /> [[Category: Questions and Answers - Series 1]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> {{ABM Q&amp;A re Prophecies}}<br /> <br /> =Question 23 -Can we ignore the plain reading of Deuteronomy 18:20-22?=<br /> <br /> Dear ABM,<br /> <br /> There are some issues in your most recent response that I will follow up with at a later date. I am aware of the street preachers in Ontario as I know one of them personally. In my view they are mentally unbalanced. <br /> <br /> I respect you not wanting to compromise your anonymity and am not asking you to do so. <br /> <br /> This is a follow-on to question 21 &amp; 22 but deals with the scriptural problem of the failure of William Branham's prophecies.<br /> <br /> God speaks plainly about the status of a prophet in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy 18:19-22:<br /> <br /> :''I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”<br /> <br /> :''You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (NIV)<br /> <br /> '''Speaking in the name of the Lord when God did not really speak was a capital offense.'''<br /> <br /> William Branham agreed with this when he stated:<br /> <br /> :''...here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. &quot;If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking.&quot; Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. (62-0407 - The Signs Of His Coming)<br /> <br /> According to the Old Testament, a prophet was to be heard and obeyed. To ignore the word of a prophet would lead to divine judgment - God would hold the disobedient to account. <br /> <br /> Given the serious nature of failure to obey the prophetic word, it is critical to distinguish between true and false prophecy. In addition, the criminal nature of false prophecy is stressed by the imposition of capital punishment for the offender. <br /> <br /> But in order to know whether to obey the word of a prophet, and in order to condemn a false prophet, criteria was laid out to differentiate between true and false prophets. In some cases the distinction was easy - when a prophet spoke in the name of other gods, he was not only a false prophet, but he was also guilty of breaking the first commandment, and therefore was deserving of the death penalty. Since he is a fraud, you need not be afraid to punish him or to ignore him completely.<br /> <br /> The more difficult case would be that in which a prophet actually spoke his own words, but claimed to be speaking the words of God, and therefore—among other crimes—was guilty of gross presumption. Since the people would rely on the instructions of prophets for vital matters, they needed criteria for identifying prophets that were not truly from God.<br /> <br /> The criteria for distinguishing the true words of God are expressed very succinctly in two clauses: <br /> <br /> :(a) The word is not true — the word supposedly spoken by God through the prophet was not in accord with the word of God already revealed and it was therefore automatically suspect, or<br /> <br /> :(b) It did not come to pass — this is where the prophetic words were predictive in nature. Discerning the truth of the words would lie in their fulfillment or lack thereof.<br /> <br /> The criteria represent the means by which a prophet gained his reputation as a true prophet and spokesman of the Lord. <br /> The failure of a prediction to materialize would show the prophet to be false. However, people could hardly suspend judgment about the authenticity of every prophecy until its outcome was clear. Those who received instructions from a prophet had to decide immediately whether or not to follow them. So in practice, the credibility of a prophet could only be tested in the long run, after he or she had established a record of accurate or inaccurate predictions. <br /> <br /> The criteria for establishing whether a prophetic word (prediction) is true or false are stated negatively, as it cannot be reversed to imply that if a prophet’s word came true, he was necessarily a true prophet for that reason alone (Deut 13:1–5). The test for matters which the prophet said would come to pass in his lifetime is fulfillment during the lifetime of that prophet.<br /> <br /> Over the course of a prophet’s ministry, in matters important and less significant, the character of a prophet as a true spokesman of God would begin to emerge clearly. And equally, false prophets would be discredited and then dealt with under the law.<br /> <br /> This is what happened in the ministry of the prophet Samuel, In 1 Samuel 3:19-20, the Bible says:<br /> <br /> :''As Samuel grew up, the Lord was with him, and everything Samuel said proved to be reliable. And all Israel, from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south, knew that Samuel was confirmed as a prophet of the Lord.<br /> <br /> Micaiah declared that his claim to speak for the Lord would be disproved if his prediction of Ahab’s death in battle did not come true. We also see this in the case of Moses. Even when he disobeyed God, God still confirmed the word of Moses because Moses was a prophet:<br /> <br /> :''He and Aaron gathered the assembly together in front of the rock and Moses said to them, “Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?” Then Moses raised his arm and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out, and the community and their livestock drank. <br /> <br /> :''But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.” (Nu 20:10–12)<br /> <br /> '''Even in disobedience, God backed up the words of Moses.'''<br /> <br /> But he failed to do that for William Branham.<br /> <br /> ==Petty silliness?==<br /> <br /> You have referred to our concern with several of William Branham's failed prophecies as &quot;petty silliness.&quot;<br /> <br /> We must disagree. When William Branham claims to be a prophet, states that God spoke to him, and then the prophecy fails, this is a serious problem. It is not silly and it is not petty!<br /> <br /> William Branham said that the Brown Bear vision was &quot;Thus Saith The Lord.&quot;<br /> <br /> Your best defense of this failed prophecy was &quot;this will be fulfilled when Bro. Branham is resurrected.&quot;<br /> <br /> With respect, how would Deut 18:19-22 ever have had application if a prophet could state that his vision had not failed but would be fulfilled by him after the resurrection. I am of the view that such explanations (and we have heard them previously) are completely opposed to scripture. There is ZERO basis in scripture for this. &quot;''It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.''''' (Heb 9:27) <br /> <br /> The basic assumption, the presupposition of those in the message, the thing that you believe is true without having any proof, is that William Branham is a prophet. But we actually stopped and said to ourselves - &quot;Can we prove William Branham to be a prophet, based on the facts alone, without any presuppositions?&quot; <br /> <br /> We tried to prove the message to be correct but ran into so many problems that we were forced to conclude, on the basis of the facts alone, that William Branham was not a prophet (opposite to what he claimed). We did not want to arrive at that conclusion. Leaving the message cost us the majority of our friends. It was not something that we did lightly.<br /> <br /> When we started our examination of the message, there were no problems on our &quot;problem shelf.&quot; But three years into our research, we had encountered so many major problems that there were problems falling off the shelf. The shelf was full and we left the message.<br /> <br /> Given the choice between friends and the truth, I chose to follow the truth, even though I knew it would cost me virtually all of my friends.<br /> <br /> ==Bad or misinterpretation?==<br /> <br /> William Branham stood under the municipal bridge in Jeffersonville and pointed out to Pearry Green the section of the bridge that fell into the river. Pearry Green related this story to me himself and when I questioned him as to the historical probllems with William Branham's statement, he exclaimed, &quot;The prophet of God would not have lied to me.&quot; <br /> <br /> But what he related to Pearry Green was a lie.<br /> <br /> How can I trust William Branham's biblical interpretation when he can't even interpret a vision that he said God supernaturally gave him. How can I trust a man to help me find the truth when he lied to a man about a vision that God supposedly showed him and was part of his vindication as a prophet?<br /> <br /> I can't! <br /> <br /> ==Confirmation Bias==<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias has been defined as “the tendency to selectively search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions or hypotheses.” This bias may be manifested in a number of ways.<br /> <br /> First, people will search for and gather information selectively. Psychological experiments have found that people tend to test their hypotheses in a one-sided way, by searching for evidence that is consistent with their current line of thinking. Rather than working through all the available evidence, people tend to focus on information that supports their preexisting hypothesis or belief. The other side of this tendency is that people give less attention to or discredit information that does not support their pre-existing views.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias may also be displayed in people’s tendency to interpret evidence in a way that supports their preexisting position. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to the handling of ambiguous information; psychological studies have shown that people are more likely to interpret ambiguous evidence as confirming their preexisting beliefs than disconfirming of them. It can also be seen in the way that people tend to take hypothesis-confirming data at face value, while subjecting disconfirming data to considerable scrutiny.<br /> <br /> An interesting example of confirmation bias is the thinking of conspiracy theorists; for example, those who believe that the United States Government was behind the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001. These people characteristically focus on the “evidence” that supports their position, and they interpret it in such a way that it fits the conspiracy they have built in their minds. On the other hand, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence effectively concluded that the belief of the CIA and other members of the Western intelligence community that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction prior to the second Gulf War was heavily influenced by confirmation bias.<br /> <br /> Researchers have shown that the effect of confirmation bias is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. In both instances, people are more likely to be resistant to change. Therefore, we would expect this bias to be a significant factor when it comes to biblical interpretation or your belief that William Branham was a vindicated prophet, which is often dealing with issues that are emotionally significant and involves deeply-held beliefs.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias influences message believers in a number of ways. When interpreting Deuteronomy 18:19-22, message believers will seek (consciously or unconsciously) to confirm an understanding of the meaning of the passage that will not be negative to William Branham. In other words, they do not approach the text from a neutral standpoint, looking to weigh up all the different possibilities before deciding on the “correct” understanding. Instead, they come at the text from a “slant,” focusing on the textual evidence that supports their preexisting understanding that it could not possibly disqualify William Branham. <br /> <br /> Confirmation bias is also evident in our discussion. I will readily admit that I had it when I was &quot;in the message.&quot; Message followers have a tendency to search for passages that confirm their preexisting theology (i.e. supporting the message). (The preceding discussion is based on Aaron Chalmers, “The Influence of Cognitive Biases on Biblical Interpretation,” Bulletin for Biblical Research 26, no. 4 (2016): 470–472.)<br /> <br /> I do not believe anyone in the message sufficiently objective to understand this. I personally had to deal with this. I did not want to believe that William Branham failed the test of Deut 18:19-22. It is evident in all my discussions with message followers that cognitive bias is present in their view of the scripture as it relates to the message.<br /> <br /> This is simply an observation, although I do not believe that you are likely to recognize this.<br /> <br /> ==The tapes have been altered==<br /> <br /> You stated that &quot;the subsequent spoken word books created from the tapes, did not line up with their (Junior Jackson and Orman Neville's) memory of Branham's sermons or with original recordings of the services which they themselves possessed.&quot; The problem is that this cannot be verified and, honestly, we must state that we do not believe this to be true,<br /> <br /> The reason we can state this is twofold:<br /> <br /> #David Mamalis, who threatened Spoken Word Publications (now Voice of God) with legal action over the tapes being in the public domain, published his own set of message books based on the tapes he had. These do not significantly disagree with those that have been published by Jeffersonville.<br /> #Neither Junior Jackson or Armand Neville published their set of tapes. It would be quite easy to publish their &quot;version&quot; of the tapes on the internet as MP3 files but this has never been done. As a result, I cannot take this criticism seriously.<br /> As a result, I must conclude that Deuteronomy 18:19-22 requiries William Branham to be viewed as a false prophet.<br /> <br /> ==Disobedience to God==<br /> <br /> With respect to the vision of the African visions, you stated that:<br /> <br /> :''God can show someone a possible future for them, which is contingent on them obeying him. One example is Moses. In Exodus 3:14-17 God plainly says that he was going to take Moses into the promised land. But he failed to obey God, and God did not fulfill to Moses what he offered. (Was God lying to Moses when said he would take him to the promised land? God did not even mention a contingency when he spoke the promise to Moses.) <br /> <br /> With respect, your reading of the passage is entirely incorrect:<br /> <br /> :''God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations. Go and gather the elders of Israel together and say to them, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has appeared to me, saying, “I have observed you and what has been done to you in Egypt, and I promise that I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, a land flowing with milk and honey.” ’ <br /> <br /> God was not speaking to Moses, he was speaking to the people of Israel. And this scripture was fulfilled when Joshua took the nation of Israel into the promised land.<br /> <br /> In Moses day, William Branham would have been sentenced to death when he went to the Yukon and the vision failed. He tried to excuse himself that it related to disobedience. But if a prophet could be excused from Deut 18:19-22 by disobedience, how would this scripture ever have been applied?<br /> <br /> This is not petty silliness. This is a man who spoke presumptuously in the name of the Lord.<br /> <br /> The message interpretation of Deuteronomy 18:19-22 nullifies the word of God, making it of no effect.<br /> <br /> Shalom,<br /> <br /> BTS<br /> <br /> =Response from ABM=<br /> <br /> BTS,<br /> <br /> Thank you for your continued dialogue.<br /> <br /> Your last email has alot to unpack, so I will respond inline<br /> <br /> BTS: There are some issues in your most recent response that I will follow up with at a later date. I am aware of the street preachers in Ontario as I know one of them personally. In my view they are mentally unbalanced. <br /> <br /> ABM: I would agree with assessment of them.<br /> <br /> BTS: I respect you not wanting to compromise your anonymity and am not asking you to do so. <br /> <br /> ABM: Thank you<br /> <br /> BTS: This is a follow-on to question 21 &amp; 22 but deals with the scriptural problem of the failure of William Branham's prophecies.<br /> <br /> God speaks plainly about the status of a prophet in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy 18:19-22:<br /> <br /> I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”<br /> <br /> You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (NIV)<br /> <br /> Speaking in the name of the Lord when God did not really speak was a capital offense.<br /> <br /> William Branham agreed with this when he stated:<br /> <br /> ...here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. &quot;If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking.&quot; Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. (62-0407 - The Signs Of His Coming)<br /> <br /> According to the Old Testament, a prophet was to be heard and obeyed. To ignore the word of a prophet would lead to divine judgment - God would hold the disobedient to account. <br /> <br /> Given the serious nature of failure to obey the prophetic word, it is critical to distinguish between true and false prophecy. In addition, the criminal nature of false prophecy is stressed by the imposition of capital punishment for the offender. <br /> <br /> But in order to know whether to obey the word of a prophet, and in order to condemn a false prophet, criteria was laid out to differentiate between true and false prophets. In some cases the distinction was easy - when a prophet spoke in the name of other gods, he was not only a false prophet, but he was also guilty of breaking the first commandment, and therefore was deserving of the death penalty. Since he is a fraud, you need not be afraid to punish him or to ignore him completely.<br /> <br /> The more difficult case would be that in which a prophet actually spoke his own words, but claimed to be speaking the words of God, and therefore—among other crimes—was guilty of gross presumption. Since the people would rely on the instructions of prophets for vital matters, they needed criteria for identifying prophets that were not truly from God.<br /> <br /> The criteria for distinguishing the true words of God are expressed very succinctly in two clauses: <br /> <br /> (a) The word is not true — the word supposedly spoken by God through the prophet was not in accord with the word of God already revealed and it was therefore automatically suspect, or<br /> <br /> (b) It did not come to pass — this is where the prophetic words were predictive in nature. Discerning the truth of the words would lie in their fulfillment or lack thereof.<br /> <br /> ABM: I agree with everything to this point. I would argue that for a forthtelling prophecy, one needs only to determine if it is true.<br /> <br /> BTS: The criteria represent the means by which a prophet gained his reputation as a true prophet and spokesman of the Lord. The failure of a prediction to materialize would show the prophet to be false. However, people could hardly suspend judgment about the authenticity of every prophecy until its outcome was clear. Those who received instructions from a prophet had to decide immediately whether or not to follow them. So in practice, the credibility of a prophet could only be tested in the long run, after he or she had established a record of accurate or inaccurate predictions. <br /> <br /> ABM: My position is this: There are numerous forthtelling prophecies that meet the standard for critera (a), they were true. Forthtelling prophecy was the primary use of Bro. Branham's prophetic gift. I am satisfied that there are enough provably accurate forthtelling prophesies that his gift can be accepted as genuine. And if you would accept witnesses who establish some of the foretelling prophecies as before the fact, you could also satisfy point (b). <br /> <br /> BTS: The criteria for establishing whether a prophetic word (prediction) is true or false are stated negatively, as it cannot be reversed to imply that if a prophet’s word came true, he was necessarily a true prophet for that reason alone (Deut 13:1–5). The test for matters which the prophet said would come to pass in his lifetime is fulfillment during the lifetime of that prophet.<br /> <br /> ABM: I come back to an example like Obadiah. I have no evidence he ever made a before the fact prophecy in his lifetime, and I have no evidence any prophecy he made ever has came to pass. By what means can I consider him a prophet? I have to accept he is a prophet because he claimed to be one and other people at the time deemed him to be one. This does stand in contrast to Duet 18:20-22. My interpretation is that Duet 18:20-22 is a mechanism for detecting a false prophet, but it is not a sure proof way to prove a true prophet. Because if we use it to validate a true prophet, then prophets like Obadiah would have to be considered at best a potential prophet and at worst a false prophet. In the case of Elijah the prophet, he never issued any foretelling prophecy on record, and he seems to be completely validated by his forthtelling prophecies. Why can we not validate Bro. Branham in the same way?<br /> <br /> BTS: Over the course of a prophet’s ministry, in matters important and less significant, the character of a prophet as a true spokesman of God would begin to emerge clearly. And equally, false prophets would be discredited and then dealt with under the law.<br /> <br /> This is what happened in the ministry of the prophet Samuel, In 1 Samuel 3:19-20, the Bible says:<br /> <br /> As Samuel grew up, the Lord was with him, and everything Samuel said proved to be reliable. And all Israel, from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south, knew that Samuel was confirmed as a prophet of the Lord.<br /> <br /> Micaiah declared that his claim to speak for the Lord would be disproved if his prediction of Ahab’s death in battle did not come true. We also see this in the case of Moses. Even when he disobeyed God, God still confirmed the word of Moses because Moses was a prophet:<br /> <br /> He and Aaron gathered the assembly together in front of the rock and Moses said to them, “Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?” Then Moses raised his arm and struck the rock twice with his staff. Water gushed out, and the community and their livestock drank. <br /> <br /> But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them.” (Nu 20:10–12)<br /> <br /> Even in disobedience, God backed up the words of Moses.<br /> <br /> But he failed to do that for William Branham.<br /> <br /> ABM: I disagree. God plainly said to Moses in Exodus 6:8 (or Exodus 3:18) &quot;I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob&quot; But after he disobeyed he then said to him &quot;And the LORD said unto Moses, Get thee up into this mount Abarim, and see the land which I have given unto the children of Israel.And when thou hast seen it, thou also shalt be gathered unto thy people, as Aaron thy brother was gathered. For ye rebelled against my commandment in the desert of Zin, in the strife of the congregation, to sanctify me at the water before their eyes: that is the water of Meribah in Kadesh in the wilderness of Zin.&quot; Plainly, God failed to bring to pass what he had previously offered without condition. <br /> <br /> You mention the prophet Macaiah. Macaiah gave a blatantly false prophesy in 1 Kings 22:13-15. He did it for selfish reasons in order to please men. By your rationale, he should be deemed a false prophet too. Yet you consider him to a be a true prophet. Why is it OK for Macaiah to give a false prophesy and speak presumptuously but not Bro. Branham? (I do no agree Bro. Branham spoke presumptuously.) I again see exceptions in the bible to your interpretation of Duet 18:20-22.<br /> <br /> BTS: Petty silliness?<br /> <br /> You have referred to our concern with several of William Branham's failed prophecies as &quot;petty silliness.&quot;<br /> <br /> ABM: Specifically the brown bear vision and the Marilyn Monroe vision.<br /> <br /> BTS: We must disagree. When William Branham claims to be a prophet, states that God spoke to him, and then the prophecy fails, this is a serious problem. It is not silly and it is not petty!<br /> <br /> William Branham said that the Brown Bear vision was &quot;Thus Saith The Lord.&quot;<br /> <br /> Your best defense of this failed prophecy was &quot;this will be fulfilled when Bro. Branham is resurrected.&quot;<br /> <br /> With respect, how would Deut 18:19-22 ever have had application if a prophet could state that his vision had not failed but would be fulfilled by him after the resurrection. I am of the view that such explanations (and we have heard them previously) are completely opposed to scripture. There is ZERO basis in scripture for this. &quot;It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.&quot; (Heb 9:27) <br /> <br /> ABM: I go back to the analysis of the exodus. God plainly said to Moses and the children of Isreal &quot;I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob&quot; But then God did not bring them to the land. How can this promise of God be fulfilled to Moses until he is resurrected? God cannot lie. This must come to pass at some point. If I accept Bro. Branham's forthtelling prophecies as vindication of his gift, then I have easily 10 to 1 ratio of good prophesies to unfilled prophesies. That is a better rate than most prophet of the bible. The majority of Ezekial, Zechariah, etc, still remain unfulfilled. I feel like we only arrive at this conclusion that Bro. Branham had no good prophecies by ignoring his primary use of the gift. If I could dismiss all his forthtelling prophecies, I would be in agreement with you. I would agree that his foretelling prophecies are tenuous and cause for concern. But when I view his limited and tenous foretelling prophecies in light of the many accurate forthtelling prophecies, it gives me pause and gives me a reason to try and find a plausible way in which the foretelling prophecies can still be fulfilled. (If you wan to call this confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance, that is ok. To me, it is a reasonable position to take after a full review of all the evidence.)<br /> <br /> BTS: The basic assumption, the presupposition of those in the message, the thing that you believe is true without having any proof, is that William Branham is a prophet. But we actually stopped and said to ourselves - &quot;Can we prove William Branham to be a prophet, based on the facts alone, without any presuppositions?&quot; <br /> <br /> ABM: To this I have to say emphatically yes. We can prove he had a true gift of prophecy because we can prove his forthtelling prophecies were accurate. Even Hollenwager established the accuracy of the gift saying he was &quot;impressed by the remarkable accuracy&quot;. There are numerous people who attest to it, and I can personally witness to it. But you seem to dismiss this as an act of prophecy in favor of only accepting a foretelling prophecy. Duet 18:20-22 does not require a prophet to give a foretelling prophecy. Forthtelling prophecies can also be validated using the same mechanism.<br /> <br /> BTS: We tried to prove the message to be correct but ran into so many problems that we were forced to conclude, on the basis of the facts alone, that William Branham was not a prophet (opposite to what he claimed). We did not want to arrive at that conclusion. Leaving the message cost us the majority of our friends. It was not something that we did lightly.<br /> <br /> When we started our examination of the message, there were no problems on our &quot;problem shelf.&quot; But three years into our research, we had encountered so many major problems that there were problems falling off the shelf. The shelf was full and we left the message.<br /> <br /> Given the choice between friends and the truth, I chose to follow the truth, even though I knew it would cost me virtually all of my friends.<br /> <br /> ABM: I am familiar with the sect of the message you exited from. I am all to familiar with the cost of leaving or splits and divisions. You are not the only one to have paid a heavily cost in friendships and relationships. I empathize with you. I have met Byskal at different times, Green, and the others. I know their preaching style and some of the things they believed. I find no surprise that you could find all manner of problems with the way in which they interpreted Bro. Branham's teachings and applied them. From grace to sanctification, from bible prophesy to gifts of the spirit, to even their view of the purpose of Bro. Branham's ministry, I believe they are wrong. They have always been wrong. It is because they accepted Bro. Branham's mistakes as the gospel. There is a dramatically different interpretations to Bro. Branham which is accepted elsewhere in the message, which is more of a middle ground between how Charistimatic's view Bro. Branham and how the core message believer view him. It is far more palatable than how the idolatrous people view him. My personal opinion is that you still probably believe most of the message, (the true message) and that you still probably accept the true doctrines Bro. Branham taught. I believe you have taken the good you can get from it and moved on, leaving the bad behind. Which is exactly the correct thing to do... Which is exactly what some of Bro. Branham's followers have done. Old manna cannot sustain us for fifty years. And we have been preaching that for fifty years. I am not asking you to reply to this point, but if you examine what you believe today, do you truly find that none of what you believe is a result of Bro. Branham's teachings?<br /> <br /> BTS: Bad or misinterpretation?<br /> <br /> William Branham stood under the municipal bridge in Jeffersonville and pointed out to Pearry Green the section of the bridge that fell into the river. Pearry Green related this story to me himself and when I questioned him as to the historical probllems with William Branham's statement, he exclaimed, &quot;The prophet of God would not have lied to me.&quot; <br /> <br /> But what he related to Pearry Green was a lie.<br /> <br /> How can I trust William Branham's biblical interpretation when he can't even interpret a vision that he said God supernaturally gave him. How can I trust a man to help me find the truth when he lied to a man about a vision that God supposedly showed him and was part of his vindication as a prophet?<br /> <br /> I can't! <br /> <br /> ABM: I agree with you! 100% agree. We cannot trust a man to show us anything. That is why the bible says to try the spirits to know whether they be of God. The only way we can validate Bro. Branham's teachings is by the word and the only way we can validate his gift is by seeing if it was accurate. His teachings must be substantiated by the bible. If we cannot substantiate them, we do not put them on the shelf. We put them in the trash can. But I can put them in the trash can without having to conclude Bro. Branham was a totally false prophet. I can conclude maybe there are some things he just did not know.<br /> <br /> BTS: Confirmation Bias<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias has been defined as “the tendency to selectively search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions or hypotheses.” This bias may be manifested in a number of ways.<br /> <br /> First, people will search for and gather information selectively. Psychological experiments have found that people tend to test their hypotheses in a one-sided way, by searching for evidence that is consistent with their current line of thinking. Rather than working through all the available evidence, people tend to focus on information that supports their preexisting hypothesis or belief. The other side of this tendency is that people give less attention to or discredit information that does not support their pre-existing views.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias may also be displayed in people’s tendency to interpret evidence in a way that supports their preexisting position. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to the handling of ambiguous information; psychological studies have shown that people are more likely to interpret ambiguous evidence as confirming their preexisting beliefs than disconfirming of them. It can also be seen in the way that people tend to take hypothesis-confirming data at face value, while subjecting disconfirming data to considerable scrutiny.<br /> <br /> An interesting example of confirmation bias is the thinking of conspiracy theorists; for example, those who believe that the United States Government was behind the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001. These people characteristically focus on the “evidence” that supports their position, and they interpret it in such a way that it fits the conspiracy they have built in their minds. On the other hand, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence effectively concluded that the belief of the CIA and other members of the Western intelligence community that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction prior to the second Gulf War was heavily influenced by confirmation bias.<br /> <br /> Researchers have shown that the effect of confirmation bias is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. In both instances, people are more likely to be resistant to change. Therefore, we would expect this bias to be a significant factor when it comes to biblical interpretation or your belief that William Branham was a vindicated prophet, which is often dealing with issues that are emotionally significant and involves deeply-held beliefs.<br /> <br /> Confirmation bias influences message believers in a number of ways. When interpreting Deuteronomy 18:19-22, message believers will seek (consciously or unconsciously) to confirm an understanding of the meaning of the passage that will not be negative to William Branham. In other words, they do not approach the text from a neutral standpoint, looking to weigh up all the different possibilities before deciding on the “correct” understanding. Instead, they come at the text from a “slant,” focusing on the textual evidence that supports their preexisting understanding that it could not possibly disqualify William Branham. <br /> <br /> Confirmation bias is also evident in our discussion. I will readily admit that I had it when I was &quot;in the message.&quot; Message followers have a tendency to search for passages that confirm their preexisting theology (i.e. supporting the message). (The preceding discussion is based on Aaron Chalmers, “The Influence of Cognitive Biases on Biblical Interpretation,” Bulletin for Biblical Research 26, no. 4 (2016): 470–472.)<br /> <br /> I do not believe anyone in the message sufficiently objective to understand this. I personally had to deal with this. I did not want to believe that William Branham failed the test of Deut 18:19-22. It is evident in all my discussions with message followers that cognitive bias is present in their view of the scripture as it relates to the message.<br /> <br /> This is simply an observation, although I do not believe that you are likely to recognize this.<br /> <br /> ABM: I understand what you are saying. &quot;Nathan Rivera&quot; was the first to put out this type of thought against message believers. I will actually agree with you. I do indeed go out of my way to try and find a way to prove what I believe to be true. In this life, I truly have no way to prove Jesus is alive in heaven right now seated at the right hand of the father. All I have is the words a man wrote in a book saying it is so and a feeling in my heart that it is true. I believe if there is to be proof of Christ, it has to be proof within myself. I believe I can be living proof that he is real. While others cannot see Jesus, they can see what he has done for me, and that can be proof. When I look at Jesus followers I see all kinds of problems. I see crusaders, inquisitions, I see churches full of sexual abuse. But I do not blame Jesus for that. He taught them better than that. They just twist what he said for their own ends. Jesus said &quot;think not that I am come to bring peace on the earth, but a sword&quot;. People have used that to justify violence in the of the Lord. Jesus said &quot;except you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will die&quot;. People rejected Jesus because they thought he was talking about cannibalism. But I instead choose to find a way to interpret what he said in a different manner that reconciles with his full teachings. I do the same for Bro. Branham, because I believe he was an authentic minister of Christ. If I find something I cannot reconcile, I reject it, and assume he meant well but failed to communicate it properly.<br /> <br /> <br /> BTS: The tapes have been altered<br /> <br /> You stated that &quot;the subsequent spoken word books created from the tapes, did not line up with their (Junior Jackson and Orman Neville's) memory of Branham's sermons or with original recordings of the services which they themselves possessed.&quot; The problem is that this cannot be verified and, honestly, we must state that we do not believe this to be true,<br /> <br /> ABM: I agree it cannot be fully verified. The only master copy of some of the altered tapes was in the possession of Leo Mercer... But it can be verified that those men, and others, have alleged the tapes were altered significantly.<br /> <br /> BTS: The reason we can state this is twofold:<br /> David Mamalis, who threatened Spoken Word Publications (now Voice of God) with legal action over the tapes being in the public domain, published his own set of message books based on the tapes he had. These do not significantly disagree with those that have been published by Jeffersonville.<br /> <br /> Neither Junior Jackson or Orman Neville published their set of tapes. It would be quite easy to publish their &quot;version&quot; of the tapes on the internet as MP3 files but this has never been done. As a result, I cannot take this criticism seriously.<br /> ABM: I would not use this argument to try and say a given prophecy was altered (though perhaps it was inserted on tape at a different time than originally given). I am not aware of any prophecy that was altered. My statement on this point was in regards to some statements in 1956 which were time sensitive in nature. David Mamalis's collection of original tapes is very small, he was primarily using many of the same source tapes VGR used, a large portion of which came from Leo Mercer. Neville died in 1974, so his ability to do much was limited. Jackson did not issue corrected tapes, but he did issue in his magazine a written list of the tapes he knew were altered and a description of the alterations that were made. He claimed to have accurate original tapes too.<br /> <br /> BTS: As a result, I must conclude that Deuteronomy 18:19-22 requires William Branham to be viewed as a false prophet.<br /> <br /> ABM: You have the freedom to make that conclusion.<br /> <br /> BTS: Disobedience to God<br /> <br /> With respect to the vision of the African visions, you stated that:<br /> <br /> God can show someone a possible future for them, which is contingent on them obeying him. One example is Moses. In Exodus 3:14-17 God plainly says that he was going to take Moses into the promised land. But he failed to obey God, and God did not fulfill to Moses what he offered. (Was God lying to Moses when said he would take him to the promised land? God did not even mention a contingency when he spoke the promise to Moses.) <br /> <br /> With respect, your reading of the passage is entirely incorrect:<br /> <br /> God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations. Go and gather the elders of Israel together and say to them, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, has appeared to me, saying, “I have observed you and what has been done to you in Egypt, and I promise that I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, a land flowing with milk and honey.” ’ <br /> <br /> God was not speaking to Moses, he was speaking to the people of Israel. And this scripture was fulfilled when Joshua took the nation of Israel into the promised land.<br /> <br /> ABM: I think we are going to continue to disagree on this point. I could say you are doing the same thing you suggest I am doing. Finding a way to interpret the scripture to meet your goal. God did not say &quot;Say the people of Israel who are yet to be born&quot; and he did not say &quot;Say to the elders of Israel, I will take your descendants...&quot; or &quot;I will bring your descendants to the land...&quot; He said you, and this people the and pointing to those to whom he was speaking. It was a personal promise to the individuals he was speaking to.<br /> <br /> BTS: In Moses day, William Branham would have been sentenced to death when he went to the Yukon and the vision failed. He tried to excuse himself that it related to disobedience. But if a prophet could be excused from Deut 18:19-22 by disobedience, how would this scripture ever have been applied?<br /> <br /> ABM: Disobedience is not an adequate excuse for the total failure of a prophecy. But is an adequate &quot;excuse&quot; for its deferred fulfillment. There are multiple examples of this in the scripture, as the example with Moses.<br /> <br /> BTS: This is not petty silliness. This is a man who spoke presumptuously in the name of the Lord.<br /> <br /> ABM: I think the Marylin Monroe issue is silly because the nature of the prophecy makes it impossible to prove it actually failed to come to pass. I think the Brown Bear vision issue is silly because we cannot definitively prove that it failed to come to pass. Thus, I cannot hang my judgement that he spoke presumptuously on either of those two prophecies. I do not see how they advance your case in a solid way, and thus I judge the issue silly. The closest you come is the South Africa meetings vision, which I do not call silly. That is more serious, but has a plausible explanation.<br /> <br /> BTS: The message interpretation of Deuteronomy 18:19-22 nullifies the word of God, making it of no effect<br /> <br /> ABM: This conclusion is only reached if you reject the possibility of future fulfillment. I can understand why you reject that possibility and thus arrive at the conclusion. I however see a potential future fulfillment, and arrive at a different conclusion.<br /> <br /> I do not feel we are going to change each others opinion on this subject, but I think we have both well stated our position. I appreciate your position and do not condemn you for it.<br /> <br /> I appreciate the time you are taking to correspond with me. You are proving yourself a fair person, and I appreciate that. I see you are trying to judge things by the Bible, and I have a great respect for that. I hope you likewise are finding value in our communications.<br /> <br /> Kind regards,<br /> <br /> ABM<br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]<br /> [[Category: Questions and Answers]]<br /> [[Category: Questions and Answers - Series 1]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=William_Branham_Maternal_Genealogy&diff=24863 2020-10-16T00:47:24Z

<p>Mitgrant: Created page with &quot;&lt;!-- Don&#039;t change or erase this text - it won&#039;t show up on your preview --&gt; {{Top of Page}} =&#039;&#039;&#039;Was William Branham&#039;s Mother&#039;s Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?&#039;&#039;&#039;= Wi...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24862 2020-10-11T13:11:25Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Genealogy is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Maternal Genealogy?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=The_Death_of_William_Branham&diff=24750 2020-09-10T16:52:26Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> [[Image:Arizona Republic (Phoenix, Arizona) · 25 Dec 1965, Sat · Page 17.JPG|thumb|250px|right|Newspaper article reporting the accident]]<br /> =The circumstances of William Branham's death=<br /> <br /> On December 18, 1965, William Branham and his family (all except his daughter, Rebekah) were returning to Jeffersonville, Indiana from Tucson, Arizona for the Christmas holidays. <br /> <br /> About 6.2 miles west of Friona, Texas, just after dark at 8:15 PM, Branham's car collided head-on with another car that was headed westbound. The driver of the other car, 17-year-old Santiago Ramos, died at the scene and the other three passengers, Rodolfo Melendez, Raynaldo Melendez and Daniel Cocanegra, were severely injured. Branham's wife was seriously injured and their daughter, Sarah, who was laying in the back seat, was also injured. Branham's left arm was mangled and caught in the driver-side door, and his left leg was wrapped around the steering wheel. After about 45 minutes, Branham was pulled from his car and transported to the hospital at Friona, and then later transported to the hospital at Amarillo, Texas. He lived for six days after the crash, dying on December 24, 1965 at 5:49 PM. His body was returned to Jeffersonville, Indiana for burial and was finally buried on April 11, 1966, Easter Monday.<br /> <br /> =Did William Branham prophesy his own death?=<br /> <br /> Did William Branham predict his own death? Did William Branham die because he was no longer preaching the truth?<br /> <br /> William Branham stated several times that God could kill him if he did not speak the truth. In fact, he stated less than one month before he died:<br /> <br /> :''That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.'''&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Did William Branham bring about his own death in 1965 by challenging God? Was his death simply God's response to his comment that if he was in error, God should strike him dead?<br /> <br /> Three times in the month immediately before his death, William Branham said that God had the authority to kill him if he wasn't telling the truth (see quotes below). <br /> <br /> '''Within a month, William Branham was dead.'''<br /> <br /> Did [[Hagin Prophecy#Comments and Questions relating to the Schrader Prophecies|Sister Anna Schrader]], who William Branhams stated was a prophetess, prophecy William Branham's death. Did he die because he had gone into the error of Dowie, as Anna Schrader prophesied?<br /> <br /> Were you aware that William Branham was approached by Gordon Lindsay several months before his death and warned that several prophecies had been made that if he did not stop preaching error, God would take his life? Did [[Hagin Prophecy|Kenneth Hagin]] also prophesy William Branham's death because he was in error?<br /> <br /> The details of these prophecies can be found in our article on the [[Hagin Prophecy]] which Gordon Lindsay related William Branham shortly before he died.<br /> <br /> &lt;youtube&gt;http://youtu.be/P_k0KPTzQ1o&lt;/youtube&gt;<br /> <br /> =What happened to William Branham's body after his death?=<br /> [[File:William Branham - Certificate of Death.JPG|thumb|250px|right|William Branham's death certificate]]<br /> After William Branham's death on December 24, 1965, Pearry Green confirmed that his body was embalmed and kept in a freezer prior to the funeral.  It is standard practice, as otherwise, the body would decay.  <br /> <br /> The embalming process involves injecting embalming fluid into an artery while blood is drained from a nearby vein or from the heart. The two gallons or so needed is usually a mixture of formaldehyde or other preservative chemicals. Chemicals are also injected by syringe into other areas of the body.  This is done to slow down the process of decay.<br /> <br /> The embalmer would then insert a long, pointed, metal tube attached to a suction hose into the body close to the navel. This is used to puncture the stomach, bladder, large intestines, and lungs. Gas and body fluids are withdrawn before more embalming fluid is injected into the torso. Again, this is done to slow down the inevitable process of the decay of the body.<br /> <br /> Incisions and holes made in the body are sewn closed or filled with “buttons.” The body is then washed, dried and put into cold storage.<br /> <br /> The nails would have been manicured and makeup would have been used on the face and hands. The body would then have been dressed and placed in the casket.<br /> <br /> =Was the driver of the other car drunk?=<br /> [[File:Santiage Luis Ramos - Grave Stone.jpg|thumb|250px|left|The driver of the other car]]<br /> [[File:Santiago Luis Ramos - Certificate of Death.JPG|thumb|250px|right|The driver of the other car]]<br /> <br /> While many in the message have repeated the story that William Branham was killed by a drunk driver, there is no proof that this was the case. The driver of the other car may have fallen asleep or perhaps Willliam Branham was distracted and drove into the other lane. This latter possibility is suggested by William Branham's daughter, Sarah, who was in the car at the time. In an [[Sarah Branham|open letter which she wrote in July 1989]], she stated:<br /> <br /> :''I know my father was a very cautious driver, always keeping speed limits and observing the traffic. Under normal circumstances, he would have reacted and avoided the car coming towards him. While speaking, he looked over to mother during this unpleasant conversation. Just then it happened.<br /> <br /> So it is quite possible that William Branham veered into the other lane while he was looking at his wife. <br /> <br /> What is clear is that there is no proof that the driver of the other vehicle was drunk.<br /> <br /> =Newspaper Report - December 23, 1965=<br /> [[Image:Willaim-Branham-Car-Wreck-article.png|thumb|250px|right|Newspaper article reporting the accident]]<br /> <br /> THE FRIONA STAR<br /> DECEMBER 23, 1965<br /> PAGE 3<br /> <br /> Head­-On Collision Kills 1, Injures 6<br /> <br /> :Description of the photograph: ''HIGHWAY 60 WRECK — These two automobiles were involved in a head­-on collision Saturday night six miles west of Friona. The driver of the Chevrolet, top, was killed. Three passengers In that car and three members of an Arizona family who were riding In the station wagon were criti­cally injured.'' <br /> <br /> Jimmie Ramos, 22, was kill­ed Saturday night when the 1956 model car<br /> he was driving crash­ed almost head­one with a 1964 model station wagon carrying three Arizona residents enroute to Indiana for the Christmas holidays.<br /> <br /> Rev. William Branham, of Tucson, Ariz., driver of the station wagon, and his wife Meda remains In Intensive care at Northwest Texas Hospital on Tuesday of this week after being transferred there from Farmer County Community Hospital late Saturday.<br /> <br /> One of Ramos' passengers, Rodolfo Melendez. also was in the Intensive care unit. Other passengers in the Ramos car were Raynaldo Melendez and Daniel Cocanegra.<br /> <br /> A daughter, 14 ­ year old Marie Branham, was another passenger In the Branham automobile. <br /> <br /> The crash happened about six miles west of Friona at Par­ merton Hill, at about 8:15 p.m. Saturday. Both cars were de­molished, and it took more than two hours to clear the wreck­age.<br /> <br /> Units of the Friona Volunteer Fire Department were sum­moned to assist in removing the wreck victims from the vehicles.<br /> <br /> Ramos was dead on arrival at the local hospital. Funeral services were held Tuesday, under the direction of Claborn Funeral Home.<br /> <br /> =Quotes of William Branham=<br /> <br /> ''And the Seven Seals of God, when It was opened there on the mountain, '''God will let me die right now at this pulpit if That ain't the Truth.''' And I foretold you, a year and six months before it happened, what He told me, &quot;Go to Arizona,&quot; and what would happen out there in the desert. And there's men setting right here, tonight, was standing right there and present when the seven Angels come down. And even mag-... The magazine, Life magazine, packed the article of It. It's right there in the observatory, everything. Now they don't even know what It's all about.&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Excuse the expression; but that day, setting there in that woods (and '''God's my judge, and I could fall dead on this pulpit'''), when that Scripture had stumped me all my life... setting there that morning in the woods, and I was thinking on that, and that Voice spoke to me, He said, &quot;That Scripture is like all Scriptures, It's true.&quot;<br /> <br /> ''Why? That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.''' Many of you here and in Jeffersonville, I can hear the tabernacle ring out now, &quot;Amen!&quot; because they're setting right there listening at it. See, because it's the Truth! What is it? It's when the God, by His sovereign grace; it happens! Outside of that, it won't happen.&lt;ref&gt;I.HAVE.HEARD.BUT.NOW.I.SEE SHREVEPORT.LA 65-1127E&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category:Prophecies and Visions]]<br /> [[Category:Prophecies]]<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=The_Death_of_William_Branham&diff=24749 2020-09-10T16:52:00Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> [[Image:Arizona Republic (Phoenix, Arizona) · 25 Dec 1965, Sat · Page 17.JPG|thumb|250px|right|Newspaper article reporting the accident]]<br /> =The circumstances of William Branham's death=<br /> <br /> On December 18, 1965, William Branham and his family (all except his daughter, Rebekah) were returning to Jeffersonville, Indiana from Tucson, Arizona for the Christmas holidays. <br /> <br /> About Six miles west of Friona, Texas, just after dark at 8:15 PM, Branham's car collided head-on with another car that was headed westbound. The driver of the other car, 17-year-old Santiago Ramos, died at the scene and the other three passengers, Rodolfo Melendez, Raynaldo Melendez and Daniel Cocanegra, were severely injured. Branham's wife was seriously injured and their daughter, Sarah, who was laying in the back seat, was also injured. Branham's left arm was mangled and caught in the driver-side door, and his left leg was wrapped around the steering wheel. After about 45 minutes, Branham was pulled from his car and transported to the hospital at Friona, and then later transported to the hospital at Amarillo, Texas. He lived for six days after the crash, dying on December 24, 1965 at 5:49 PM. His body was returned to Jeffersonville, Indiana for burial and was finally buried on April 11, 1966, Easter Monday.<br /> <br /> =Did William Branham prophesy his own death?=<br /> <br /> Did William Branham predict his own death? Did William Branham die because he was no longer preaching the truth?<br /> <br /> William Branham stated several times that God could kill him if he did not speak the truth. In fact, he stated less than one month before he died:<br /> <br /> :''That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.'''&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Did William Branham bring about his own death in 1965 by challenging God? Was his death simply God's response to his comment that if he was in error, God should strike him dead?<br /> <br /> Three times in the month immediately before his death, William Branham said that God had the authority to kill him if he wasn't telling the truth (see quotes below). <br /> <br /> '''Within a month, William Branham was dead.'''<br /> <br /> Did [[Hagin Prophecy#Comments and Questions relating to the Schrader Prophecies|Sister Anna Schrader]], who William Branhams stated was a prophetess, prophecy William Branham's death. Did he die because he had gone into the error of Dowie, as Anna Schrader prophesied?<br /> <br /> Were you aware that William Branham was approached by Gordon Lindsay several months before his death and warned that several prophecies had been made that if he did not stop preaching error, God would take his life? Did [[Hagin Prophecy|Kenneth Hagin]] also prophesy William Branham's death because he was in error?<br /> <br /> The details of these prophecies can be found in our article on the [[Hagin Prophecy]] which Gordon Lindsay related William Branham shortly before he died.<br /> <br /> &lt;youtube&gt;http://youtu.be/P_k0KPTzQ1o&lt;/youtube&gt;<br /> <br /> =What happened to William Branham's body after his death?=<br /> [[File:William Branham - Certificate of Death.JPG|thumb|250px|right|William Branham's death certificate]]<br /> After William Branham's death on December 24, 1965, Pearry Green confirmed that his body was embalmed and kept in a freezer prior to the funeral.  It is standard practice, as otherwise, the body would decay.  <br /> <br /> The embalming process involves injecting embalming fluid into an artery while blood is drained from a nearby vein or from the heart. The two gallons or so needed is usually a mixture of formaldehyde or other preservative chemicals. Chemicals are also injected by syringe into other areas of the body.  This is done to slow down the process of decay.<br /> <br /> The embalmer would then insert a long, pointed, metal tube attached to a suction hose into the body close to the navel. This is used to puncture the stomach, bladder, large intestines, and lungs. Gas and body fluids are withdrawn before more embalming fluid is injected into the torso. Again, this is done to slow down the inevitable process of the decay of the body.<br /> <br /> Incisions and holes made in the body are sewn closed or filled with “buttons.” The body is then washed, dried and put into cold storage.<br /> <br /> The nails would have been manicured and makeup would have been used on the face and hands. The body would then have been dressed and placed in the casket.<br /> <br /> =Was the driver of the other car drunk?=<br /> [[File:Santiage Luis Ramos - Grave Stone.jpg|thumb|250px|left|The driver of the other car]]<br /> [[File:Santiago Luis Ramos - Certificate of Death.JPG|thumb|250px|right|The driver of the other car]]<br /> <br /> While many in the message have repeated the story that William Branham was killed by a drunk driver, there is no proof that this was the case. The driver of the other car may have fallen asleep or perhaps Willliam Branham was distracted and drove into the other lane. This latter possibility is suggested by William Branham's daughter, Sarah, who was in the car at the time. In an [[Sarah Branham|open letter which she wrote in July 1989]], she stated:<br /> <br /> :''I know my father was a very cautious driver, always keeping speed limits and observing the traffic. Under normal circumstances, he would have reacted and avoided the car coming towards him. While speaking, he looked over to mother during this unpleasant conversation. Just then it happened.<br /> <br /> So it is quite possible that William Branham veered into the other lane while he was looking at his wife. <br /> <br /> What is clear is that there is no proof that the driver of the other vehicle was drunk.<br /> <br /> =Newspaper Report - December 23, 1965=<br /> [[Image:Willaim-Branham-Car-Wreck-article.png|thumb|250px|right|Newspaper article reporting the accident]]<br /> <br /> THE FRIONA STAR<br /> DECEMBER 23, 1965<br /> PAGE 3<br /> <br /> Head­-On Collision Kills 1, Injures 6<br /> <br /> :Description of the photograph: ''HIGHWAY 60 WRECK — These two automobiles were involved in a head­-on collision Saturday night six miles west of Friona. The driver of the Chevrolet, top, was killed. Three passengers In that car and three members of an Arizona family who were riding In the station wagon were criti­cally injured.'' <br /> <br /> Jimmie Ramos, 22, was kill­ed Saturday night when the 1956 model car<br /> he was driving crash­ed almost head­one with a 1964 model station wagon carrying three Arizona residents enroute to Indiana for the Christmas holidays.<br /> <br /> Rev. William Branham, of Tucson, Ariz., driver of the station wagon, and his wife Meda remains In Intensive care at Northwest Texas Hospital on Tuesday of this week after being transferred there from Farmer County Community Hospital late Saturday.<br /> <br /> One of Ramos' passengers, Rodolfo Melendez. also was in the Intensive care unit. Other passengers in the Ramos car were Raynaldo Melendez and Daniel Cocanegra.<br /> <br /> A daughter, 14 ­ year old Marie Branham, was another passenger In the Branham automobile. <br /> <br /> The crash happened about six miles west of Friona at Par­ merton Hill, at about 8:15 p.m. Saturday. Both cars were de­molished, and it took more than two hours to clear the wreck­age.<br /> <br /> Units of the Friona Volunteer Fire Department were sum­moned to assist in removing the wreck victims from the vehicles.<br /> <br /> Ramos was dead on arrival at the local hospital. Funeral services were held Tuesday, under the direction of Claborn Funeral Home.<br /> <br /> =Quotes of William Branham=<br /> <br /> ''And the Seven Seals of God, when It was opened there on the mountain, '''God will let me die right now at this pulpit if That ain't the Truth.''' And I foretold you, a year and six months before it happened, what He told me, &quot;Go to Arizona,&quot; and what would happen out there in the desert. And there's men setting right here, tonight, was standing right there and present when the seven Angels come down. And even mag-... The magazine, Life magazine, packed the article of It. It's right there in the observatory, everything. Now they don't even know what It's all about.&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Excuse the expression; but that day, setting there in that woods (and '''God's my judge, and I could fall dead on this pulpit'''), when that Scripture had stumped me all my life... setting there that morning in the woods, and I was thinking on that, and that Voice spoke to me, He said, &quot;That Scripture is like all Scriptures, It's true.&quot;<br /> <br /> ''Why? That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.''' Many of you here and in Jeffersonville, I can hear the tabernacle ring out now, &quot;Amen!&quot; because they're setting right there listening at it. See, because it's the Truth! What is it? It's when the God, by His sovereign grace; it happens! Outside of that, it won't happen.&lt;ref&gt;I.HAVE.HEARD.BUT.NOW.I.SEE SHREVEPORT.LA 65-1127E&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category:Prophecies and Visions]]<br /> [[Category:Prophecies]]<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 1</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 1</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 2</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 2</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 3</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 3</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 4</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 4</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 5</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 5</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 6</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> WBEA Articles Of Incorporation – October 26, 1965 Page 6</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=File:The_Amarillo_Globe_Times_Mon_Dec_20_1965.JPG&diff=24742 2020-09-09T22:38:07Z

<p>Mitgrant: Condition of 3 Still Critical After Wreck.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Condition of 3 Still Critical After Wreck.</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=File:William_Branham_-_Certificate_of_Death.JPG&diff=24718 2020-09-03T15:38:22Z

<p>Mitgrant: William Branham – Certificate of Death, December 24, 1965</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> William Branham – Certificate of Death, December 24, 1965</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: Santiago Luis Ramos Jr. – Certificate of Death, December 18, 1965</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Santiago Luis Ramos Jr. – Certificate of Death, December 18, 1965</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: Santiago Luis Ramos Jr. Grave Stone located in the Friona Cemetery, Friona Texas.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Santiago Luis Ramos Jr. Grave Stone located in the Friona Cemetery, Friona Texas.</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=File:Arizona_Republic_(Phoenix,_Arizona)_%C2%B7_25_Dec_1965,_Sat_%C2%B7_Page_17.JPG&diff=24715 2020-09-03T15:12:31Z

<p>Mitgrant: Article from page 17 of The Arizona Republic newspaper Saturday, Dec. 25, 1965.</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> Article from page 17 of The Arizona Republic newspaper Saturday, Dec. 25, 1965.</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=The_Death_of_William_Branham&diff=24714 2020-09-01T20:51:48Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> =The circumstances of William Branham's death=<br /> <br /> On December 18, 1965, William Branham and his family (all except his daughter, Rebekah) were returning to Jeffersonville, Indiana from Tucson, Arizona for the Christmas holidays. <br /> <br /> About three miles east of Friona, Texas, just after dark, a car traveling west struck Branham's car head-on. The driver of the other car died at the scene, as did the other front seat passenger. The other two passengers in the back seat of the car were severely injured. Branham's wife was seriously injured and their daughter, Sarah, who was laying in the back seat, was also injured. Branham's left arm was mangled and caught in the driver-side door, and his left leg was wrapped around the steering wheel. After about 45 minutes, Branham was pulled from his car and transported to the hospital at Friona, and then later transported to the hospital at Amarillo, Texas. He lived for six days after the crash, dying on December 24, 1965 at 5:49 PM. His body was returned to Jeffersonville, Indiana for burial and was finally buried on April 11, 1966, Easter Monday.<br /> <br /> =Did William Branham prophesy his own death?=<br /> <br /> Did William Branham predict his own death? Did William Branham die because he was no longer preaching the truth?<br /> <br /> William Branham stated several times that God could kill him if he did not speak the truth. In fact, he stated less than one month before he died:<br /> <br /> :''That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.'''&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Did William Branham bring about his own death in 1965 by challenging God? Was his death simply God's response to his comment that if he was in error, God should strike him dead?<br /> <br /> Three times in the month immediately before his death, William Branham said that God had the authority to kill him if he wasn't telling the truth (see quotes below). <br /> <br /> '''Within a month, William Branham was dead.'''<br /> <br /> Did [[Hagin Prophecy#Comments and Questions relating to the Schrader Prophecies|Sister Anna Schrader prophecy William Branham's death]] because he had gone into the error of Dowie?<br /> <br /> Were you aware that William Branham was approached by Gordon Lindsay several months before his death and warned that several prophecies had been made that if he did not stop preaching error, God would take his life? d [[Hagin Prophecy|Kenneth Hagin]] also prophesy William Branham's death because he was in error?<br /> <br /> The details of these prophecies can be found in our article on the [[Hagin Prophecy]] which Gordon Lindsay related William Branham shortly before he died.<br /> <br /> &lt;youtube&gt;http://youtu.be/P_k0KPTzQ1o&lt;/youtube&gt;<br /> <br /> =What happened to William Branham's body after his death?=<br /> <br /> After William Branham's death on December 24, 1965, Pearry Green confirmed that his body was embalmed and kept in a freezer prior to the funeral.  It is standard practice, as otherwise, the body would decay.  <br /> <br /> The embalming process involves injecting embalming fluid into an artery while blood is drained from a nearby vein or from the heart. The two gallons or so needed is usually a mixture of formaldehyde or other preservative chemicals. Chemicals are also injected by syringe into other areas of the body.  This is done to slow down the process of decay.<br /> <br /> The embalmer would then insert a long, pointed, metal tube attached to a suction hose into the body close to the navel. This is used to puncture the stomach, bladder, large intestines, and lungs. Gas and body fluids are withdrawn before more embalming fluid is injected into the torso. Again, this is done to slow down the inevitable process of the decay of the body.<br /> <br /> Incisions and holes made in the body are sewn closed or filled with “buttons.” The body is then washed, dried and put into cold storage.<br /> <br /> The nails would have been manicured and makeup would have been used on the face and hands. The body would then have been dressed and placed in the casket.<br /> <br /> =Was the driver of the other car drunk?=<br /> <br /> While many in the message have repeated the story that William Branham was killed by a drunk driver, there is no proof that this was the case. The driver of the other car may have fallen asleep or perhaps Willliam Branham was distracted and drove into the other lane. This latter possibility is suggested by William Branham's daughter, Sarah, who was in the car at the time. In an [[Sarah Branham|open letter which she wrote in July 1989]], she stated:<br /> <br /> :''I know my father was a very cautious driver, always keeping speed limits and observing the traffic. Under normal circumstances, he would have reacted and avoided the car coming towards him. While speaking, he looked over to mother during this unpleasant conversation. Just then it happened.<br /> <br /> So it is quite possible that William Branham veered into the other lane while he was looking at his wife. <br /> <br /> What is clear is that there is no proof that the driver of the other vehicle was drunk.<br /> <br /> =Newspaper Report - December 23, 1965=<br /> [[Image:Willaim-Branham-Car-Wreck-article.png|thumb|250px|right|Newspaper article reporting the accident]]<br /> <br /> THE FRIONA STAR<br /> DECEMBER 23, 1965<br /> PAGE 3<br /> <br /> Head­-On Collision Kills 1, Injures 6<br /> <br /> :Description of the photograph: ''HIGHWAY 60 WRECK — These two automobiles were involved in a head­-on collision Saturday night six miles west of Friona. The driver of the Chevrolet, top, was killed. Three passengers In that car and three members of an Arizona family who were riding In the station wagon were criti­cally injured.'' <br /> <br /> Jimmie Ramos, 22, was kill­ed Saturday night when the 1956 model car<br /> he was driving crash­ed almost head­one with a 1964 model station wagon carrying three Arizona residents enroute to Indiana for the Christmas holidays.<br /> <br /> Rev. William Branham, of Tucson, Ariz., driver of the station wagon, and his wife Meda remains In Intensive care at Northwest Texas Hospital on Tuesday of this week after being transferred there from Farmer County Community Hospital late Saturday.<br /> <br /> One of Ramos' passengers, Rodolfo Melendez. also was in the Intensive care unit. Other passengers in the Ramos car were Raynaldo Melendez and Daniel Cocanegra.<br /> <br /> A daughter, 14 ­ year old Marie Branham, was another passenger In the Branham automobile. <br /> <br /> The crash happened about six miles west of Friona at Par­ merton Hill, at about 8:15 p.m. Saturday. Both cars were de­molished, and it took more than two hours to clear the wreck­age.<br /> <br /> Units of the Friona Volunteer Fire Department were sum­moned to assist in removing the wreck victims from the vehicles.<br /> <br /> Ramos was dead on arrival at the local hospital. Funeral services were held Tuesday, under the direction of Claborn Funeral Home.<br /> <br /> =Quotes of William Branham=<br /> <br /> ''And the Seven Seals of God, when It was opened there on the mountain, '''God will let me die right now at this pulpit if That ain't the Truth.''' And I foretold you, a year and six months before it happened, what He told me, &quot;Go to Arizona,&quot; and what would happen out there in the desert. And there's men setting right here, tonight, was standing right there and present when the seven Angels come down. And even mag-... The magazine, Life magazine, packed the article of It. It's right there in the observatory, everything. Now they don't even know what It's all about.&lt;ref&gt;THE.INVISIBLE.UNION.OF.THE.BRIDE.OF.CHRIST_ SHP.LA 65-1125&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Excuse the expression; but that day, setting there in that woods (and '''God's my judge, and I could fall dead on this pulpit'''), when that Scripture had stumped me all my life... setting there that morning in the woods, and I was thinking on that, and that Voice spoke to me, He said, &quot;That Scripture is like all Scriptures, It's true.&quot;<br /> <br /> ''Why? That is Truth! '''God has the authority to kill me, before these people across the nation.''' Many of you here and in Jeffersonville, I can hear the tabernacle ring out now, &quot;Amen!&quot; because they're setting right there listening at it. See, because it's the Truth! What is it? It's when the God, by His sovereign grace; it happens! Outside of that, it won't happen.&lt;ref&gt;I.HAVE.HEARD.BUT.NOW.I.SEE SHREVEPORT.LA 65-1127E&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category:Prophecies and Visions]]<br /> [[Category:Prophecies]]<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

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<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24571 2020-05-26T15:15:01Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties. My father went at fifty-two. I don’t when that will come.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Note: The age at which the Grandparents died is considerably different than the quote above.<br /> William Branham's Father's Father George W. Branham died at 87.<br /> William Branham's Father's Mother Mary L. Farleigh died at 93.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Father Francis M. Harvey died at 88.<br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother Nancy V. Branham died at 72.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24570 2020-05-26T15:00:09Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties. My father went at fifty-two. I don’t when that will come.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24569 2020-05-26T14:59:42Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Most all Branhams when they get old… Some of them live long lives. My grandmother was a hundred and ten. My grandfather died at ninety-seven. My grandmother on my mother’s side, she died young with scrofula. But she was the one that was a half-breed, Cherokee Indian. And my grandfather died about four years ago, on mother’s side, being somewhere in his nineties. My father went at fifty-two. I don’t when that will come.&lt;ref&gt;56-0429 - Jehovah-Jireh&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24564 2020-05-18T16:12:48Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; Mitochondrial DNA is grouped into haplogroups. A Haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor. All Native American maternal lineages are from 4 haplogroups that have ancestors from Asia. These Haplogroups are given alphabet names A, B, C, and D. For Willaim Branham's claim to be true that his mother was of Cherokee Indian descent means any of the maternal line descents from Malissa Smith would test positive for mt-DNA haplogroup A, B, C, or D. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24558 2020-05-09T14:50:51Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true, all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24556 2020-04-29T13:27:13Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24555 2020-04-29T13:26:23Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Conclusion'''======<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24554 2020-04-23T21:38:37Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Race. <br /> <br /> Under race there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean (Smith) Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria (Branham) Harvey, '''Race=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's Race was white.'''====<br /> <br /> If William Branham's claim was true all of Melissa J. Branham's children would have been full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> The problem is that all of Melissa's Sons were record on official records with their race as White.<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Branham Sons in birth order:<br /> <br /> <br /> John H. Branham (April 13, 1871 - Jan. 5, 1945) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> James R. Branham (April 18, 1874 - Jan. 26, 1953) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Ruben W. Branham (Oct. 20, 1877 - Jun. 29, 1945) Race is listed as white on his WWI draft registration card.<br /> <br /> George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6, 1881 - July 24, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Francis C. Branham (Jun. 24, 1886 - May 29, 1965) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) Race is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24553 2020-04-20T18:30:37Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's ethnicity was white.'''=====<br /> <br /> Malissa J. Branham's Son George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6 1881 - July 24, 1961) ethnicity is listed as white on his death record.<br /> <br /> Malissa J. Branham's Son Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) ethnicity is listed as white on his death record. <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Mitochondrial inheritance'''======<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24552 2020-04-20T18:30:09Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Additional Evidence Melissa J. (Smith) Branham's ethnicity was white.'''=====<br /> <br /> Malissa J. Branham's Son George Alfred Branham (Aug. 6 1881 - July 24, 1961) ethnicity is listed as white on his death record.<br /> Malissa J. Branham's Son Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) ethnicity is listed as white on his death record. <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Mitochondrial inheritance'''======<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24551 2020-04-20T18:07:43Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Melissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> =====Additional Evidence Nancy V. Branham's ethnicity was white.=====<br /> <br /> Malissa J. Branham's Son Lucien T. Branham (April 15, 1895 - May 22, 1961) ethnicity is listed as white on his death record. <br /> <br /> <br /> ======'''Mitochondrial inheritance'''======<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24550 2020-04-17T13:08:17Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements, William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is a full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24542 2020-04-14T16:40:32Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> ====='''Mitochondrial inheritance'''=====<br /> <br /> The fact that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited enables genealogical researchers to trace maternal lineage far back in time.&lt;ref&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24514 2020-04-10T14:12:32Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24513 2020-04-10T14:07:52Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. <br /> <br /> Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24512 2020-04-10T14:07:20Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24511 2020-04-10T14:06:24Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be a full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indians. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description had three categories; Age, Sex, and Ethnic group. Under the Ethnic group, there were 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) '''5-Indian(I)'''<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White<br /> '''<br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), '''Ethnicity=White'''<br /> <br /> ====Lewis Branham and Malissa Smith Marriage Bond February 16th 1868====<br /> <br /> <br /> Mallissa Smith's Marriage Bond says she was born in Adair County Ky. It also states her Mother's birthplace was also Adair County Ky. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24510 2020-04-08T13:53:03Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description collected 3 categories Age, Sex, and Color. Under Color it had 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) 5-Indian(I)<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith(Branham), Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, Color=White<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, Color = White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham(Harvey), Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24509 2020-04-08T13:49:13Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description collected 3 categories Age, Sex, and Color. Under Color it had 5 choices for the census takers. 1-White(W) 2-Black(B) 3-Mulatto(M) 4-Chinese(C) 5-Indian(I)<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, Color=White<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, Color = White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

Mitgrant https://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=24508 2020-04-08T13:45:43Z

<p>Mitgrant: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!-- The Sandbox - Don't change or erase this text - it won't show up on your preview --&gt;<br /> {{Top of Page}}<br /> <br /> ='''Was William Branham's Mother's Mother a full-blooded Cherokee Indian?'''=<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham stated:<br /> <br /> ''And it kind of reminds me, one time I was… My father was… My mother is from Oklahoma and Texas. And she was born in the state of Kentucky. And my grandfather went west. My mother’s mother come off the Oklahoma reservation. She’s full-blooded Cherokee Indian. And my father’s Irish. And my mother, on the other side, by her father, was Irish.''&lt;ref&gt;50-0813A - The Resurrection Of Lazarus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''I love the mountains. My—my mother’s mother was full-blooded Cherokee Indian out of the valleys here, and my conversion never taken that away from me; I love nature.''&lt;ref&gt;56-0422 - Show Us The Father And It'll Satisfy&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Notice. One day I was… I’d go to the mountains, not so much to hunt the wild game, but to be alone. My mother’s almost a half Cherokee Indian. And the… My conversion never took that love of the wild out of me.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0323 - God In His Word&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Much of my time… My—my mother’s mother came from the reservation, and there’s been something in me that loves the outdoors.''&lt;ref&gt;57-0126B - India Trip Report&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''My mother… My mother’s mother come off this reservation up here. And my conversion didn’t take the call of the deep out of me; I love the woods.''&lt;ref&gt;58-0301B - The Great Commission&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Down deep in my veins flows just a little bit of the blood. My mother’s grandmother come from the reservation. And I’ve always deemed that one of the greatest privileges, to say that down in me is part really American. For there’s a little background somewhere of Indian blood that I’m very happy for, very thankful.''&lt;ref&gt;62-0724 - Sir, We Would See Jesus&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> In the above statements William Branham is certain his Mother's Mother is full-blooded Cherokee Indian even expressing that he knew what reservation she was from. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian both her Mother and Father would also have to be full-blooded Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==William Branham's Maternal Line is.==<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham + Malissa Jean Smith (abt 1850 - abt 1923)<br /> <br /> <br /> Francis Marion Harvey + Nancy Victoria Branham (abt 1868 - abt 1940)<br /> <br /> <br /> Charles E. Branham + Ella Rhee Harvey (1891 - 1961)<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham<br /> <br /> <br /> William Branham's Mother's Mother was Nancy Victoria Branham. For her to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian as William Branham claimed her parents would both have to be full-blooded Cherokee Indian. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===What does the US Census report for William Branham's Material Line?===<br /> <br /> The 1870 and 1880 US Census under description collected 3 categories Age, Sex, and Color. Under Color it had 5 choices for the census takers. 1)White(W) 2)Black(B) 3)Mulatto(M) 4)Chinese(C) 5)Indian(I)<br /> <br /> '''1870 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=19, Color=White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Location=Adair County Ky, Age=1, Color=White<br /> <br /> '''1880 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Lewis Riley Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> Malissa Jean Smith, Color = White<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> '''1900 US Census record:'''<br /> <br /> Nancy Victoria Branham, Color = White<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bottom of Page}}<br /> [[Category: Unfinished articles]]</div>

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